Which is precisely why I suggested that people might want to write to Mark Byford, Ray. I do what I can from the inside, believe me, but it's only by a strong lobby from outside that things are likely to be changed. Otherwise, the only people the beeb ends up talking to are the RNIB who were, I believe, consulted on these guidelines in the first place. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 21 October 2005 15:23 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: CHILDREN OF BESLAN FOLLOW0UP OK folks, I know dead horses could well be being flogged here, but how are these ' guidelines' changed and negotiated? Shouldn't we, or someone be in there asking for or demanding changes? I think an alt transmission placed very near the original could be one work around. Also, how about all the other stuff that Beeb2 smuggly transmit with blatant disregard of our access needs? Programmes like Correspondent which I gave up on years ago. Don't know if it is still transmitted. Also, how about beefing up the audio sub-channel? Why the tardy tortoise like progress on this one? Why have we nothing like parity with the deaf on this issue? These are all points that should be brought up and remodies should be forthcoming. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Logue <mailto:peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:47 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: CHILDREN OF BESLAN FOLLOW0UP Its because of the clause below that the BBC pulled their artistic card. However there may be exceptional occasions where it is necessary editorially for the voice to remain unchanged. They may arise where, for example, it is important to understand the emotion of a speaker giving personal testimony http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.