I for one would be interested in finding laptops with full keyboards For email use hugh.megarry@xxxxxxxxxxxx For M S N use hughmegarry@xxxxxxxxxxx For Skype use hugh.megarry All the best for now Email hugh.megarry@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 05 August 2004 12:15 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: CCTV that are useful Well Colin, at least that disposes of one of my objections to laptops. Although I am not interested in buying a laptop, not for the forseeable future, can you tell me some makes and models of laptop that do have a full keyboard please? I ask as some people I know might be interested. Ray. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin @ New Vision" <cph.newvision@xxxxxxxxxx> Hi Ray The guarding of privacy and the sense of independence are two very important reasons why people buy a CCTV. As for 17" Notebooks they are supplied with the number pad keys. In fact very similar to a standard keyboard. The keys tops can also be laser etched as an alternative to stick on labels. These notebook's are also referred to as portable desktops by some manufacturers. Regards Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Thankyou very much Colin - for both responses to my questions, > including the > message you sent about school use of computers and CCTV. > > It would seem that in a sense CCTV has come of age more now with the arrival > of larger, more affordable LCD screens. I can quite see the advantage > of larger screen laptops too for making such an integrated approach to > accessing visual matterial more doable. Only trouble is, I hate > laptops! Sure, you can get used to anything in time, but I find the > (usual) lack of a > separate numeric keypad sometimes a bind, not withstanding the FN key > alternative of overlay keys. I find them cramped, and the screen > isn't exacly in the position I would prefer. As to battery life, well > they are such a joke! They are though, very compact; but give me my > small form desktop anytime. > > Its sort of encouraging to know that, given the right equipment, and access > to a coresponingly large access budget, copy typing for those of us > with enough sight to do it is possible. > > Someone mentioned the peculiar delight of receiving a hand-written > letter. I've had a few in my time, but too often I cannot read them > easily enough to > enjoy the experience, and get very frustrated if I have to ask someone else > to read it! And there lies another clue to the value of CCTV to some > people: guarding of privacy. > > Again, thanks a lot for your very informative posts. > > Ray. ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** vacation ## d ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.734 / Virus Database: 488 - Release Date: 04/08/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.734 / Virus Database: 488 - Release Date: 04/08/2004 ** Going on holiday and want to halt messages? Send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** vacation ## d ** where ## is the number of days followed by d for days. ** For other things like digest mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq