[access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
- From: Tristram Llewellyn <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:14:51 +0000
It is down to individual units. CD transports vary in price from about $3
upwards in component costs upwards. The very cheapest mechanisms will be Red
Book CD format only supporting basic audio CD format. Better transports
essentially are computer drivers built into domestic products and thereby do
regular CD and MP3 format. They are still relatively uncommon though even in
this day and age. In some senses due to the fact no commercial discs were
produced in MP3 format the demand for drives to support this doesn’t really
exist hence very few actually do it. The whole thing is becoming media-less
where even physical format is not required which doesn’t help in your scenario.
Basically if you want to guarantee it will play it has to be Red Book audio CD
format. If you are lucky and have a unit also capable of playing MP3 CDs then
you are in luck. There are players out there that will do it.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
ANDY COLLINS
Sent: 28 August 2012 14:17
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Tristram -
This is what doesn't make sense to me. We've all had discman players in our
time [well most of us] that as time went on, were able to play discs with mp3
files on it. It seems strange to me, not have incorporated that ability in to
something like a clock radio/cd player. Is that really how it is? -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Tristram Llewellyn<mailto:tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'<mailto:'access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Most domestic CD machines do not play MP3 files. A few machines do and will
advertise that fact however Red book audio CD format does not support MP3, it
is a very old format way before MP3s. Usually the typical suites like Nero
have tools for create an audio CD for domestic CD players but your limit is
somewhere about 74 minutes of audio.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Technical Support
Sight and Sound Technology
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
ANDY COLLINS
Sent: 28 August 2012 11:47
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Hi John - Yes, I want to keep the files in the mp3 format, so I can get an
entire book on a single cd, so are you saying if I do that, I can not play them
in any CD machines, that I can only play them on a computer or a DVD player?
I'd have thought these days that standard cd players would be able to handle
mp3 files on a CDr? -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: john coley<mailto:johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:51 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Hi Andy, cd players won't play data disks. If you want the files as mp3 then
burning as data will do fine.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: ANDY COLLINS<mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:02 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Hi John -
Thanks. Yes, I understand this I think, but I thought most standard cd players
these days, were capable of playing data discs? Am I wrong about that? I'm
actually wanting to burn audio books in mp3 format, on to a single cd, for
bedtime reading. I don't really want to convert them to CDA format, thus
producing loads of cds per book -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: john coley<mailto:johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 9:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Andy, it sounds to me as though you're burning as data instead of audio. If you
burn mp3's to cd using data they'll remain mp3, in which case the cd will play
on a pc, or mp3 player, but not on a cd player. For a cd to play on a cd player
it must be burned as an audio cd, and the mp3 files will be converted before
burning.
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: ANDY COLLINS<mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Hi Ibrahim -
Thanks for trying to help. I am actually using CDR discs, and not CDRW ones.
The disc play in other machines, such as our dvd recorder, and my old PTR1.
Is there a difference between cdr and minus cdr discs? The clock radio says it
supports minus cdr -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu<mailto:ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Hi Andy.
Thanks for your email, sorry its taken me a while to get back to you but I’ve
simply been overwhelmed with emails today.
OK, from what you’re describing, you appear to be doing everything correctly
and the disks you are creating should not be UDF formatted disks. Its possible
that your CD clock radio isn’t able to read from the disks for another reason.
Try following the same procedure as outlined in your message but using a blank
CD recordable disks. OK, you will be limited to using this once, however if it
works then you may need to change brand of CDRW disks which may be causing the
CD player problems as some devices cant play certain brands of disks.
All the best, Ibrahim.
From: ANDY COLLINS<mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 9:25 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Hi Ibrahim -
When I insert a disc, the "burn a disc" wizard opens, and I am offered today's
date as a name for the disc [obviously I can choose to change this] then when I
hit tab, it says: "prepare this blank disc" choose file format, where the
choices are live file system, and mastered. I always choose mastered, because
it says they are playable on all computers, and in some CD players, where as
the live format says the disc will be like a USB flash drive, where files can
be added and erased.
So, how can I get round this? If when I insert a blank disc, it's properties
says the file format is UDF, then is it possible to change this to a format
that cd players can play. Surely, when it says a clock radio can play CDR and
CDRW discs, it should also say, as long as the discs haven't been written using
a burner that uses UDF as it's formatting! -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu<mailto:ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 9:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Burning discs to play in a CD player
Hi Andy.
UDF isn’t supported on most mp3 compatible CD players, it has to be a direct
write I’m afraid. Make sure the option to use the disk as a flash drive is not
selected as this creates a UDF formatted disk.
All the best, Ibrahim.
From: ANDY COLLINS<mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:50 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Burning discs to play in a CD player
Hi all -
I have no problem using the built-in burn facility on this Vista laptop, to
create mp3 discs, that then play in various external machines. However, my
partner has a Pure digital radio/cd player, that she only bought this week,
that claims to play cdr and cdrw discs, actually, it said minus cdr [I'm not
sure what the difference is on that one], but each time I burn a disc and try
to play it in her machine, it says "format not supported." The DVDRW drive on
my laptop uses UDF, but I wouldn't have thought this would be an issue with
today's players?
Anybody help me out please? -
Andy
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