[access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?

  • From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 16:16:29 +0100

it is not grade 2 that is outdated but the idea of over religious zealots 
insisting on braille contractions that are context sensitive certainly is.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?


Yes, you Did use dot five and L in landlord.  As to you saying:
"having braille signs relating to words in a specific way is clearly
outdated ", is something Else I don't agree with, what about:
nec for necessary,
lr for letter,
k for knowledge,
cd for could, etc, etc.
Why should we fluent braille readers put-up with grade One just because some
don't learn the full braille system for whatever reason.  Braille is bulky
enough without putting up with grade one, it would be like a child who Only
learnt to print and never joined up their letters! lol

Christine W. ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:48 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?


having braille signs relating to words in a specific way is clearly outdated
and frankly wrong.  Technically at least I don't think for example that dot
5 l can be used in landlord.  Braille should not be shaped by religious
values.  If people have a particular religious belief that is fine as we all
have the right to believe in what we want but that should not affect the
rules of something like Braille which is intended for use irrespective of
religious persuasion.

Cheers

Graham
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Beasley" <p.beasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?


No it wasn't specific.  For instance, you could use dot5 c in the name
Christine.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angel" <Angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?


I hadn't thought of that about the Christ sign, though if that word appears
in another faith's religious context couldn't the sign be used?  I think
what I meant is it is not faith specific.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:05 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?


> Hi Angel,
>
> I don't think all of them encompass all faiths, for example Christ is
> definitely Christian.  For my part, I am glad they are gone.  We are the
> only country that used them in terms of Braille, so it didn't make any
> sense.  Mind you, I hate Grade 2 anyway, it is so ambiguous, and gives
> people writing translation software a big headache.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Angel
> Sent: 28 April 2007 06:49
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>
> I always wondered whatever happened to those signs.  I didn't know they
> had
> been scrapped.  As they encompass all faiths I don't think they ought to
> have been.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
> To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@freelists.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:42 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Braille readers, did you know?
>
>
>> Hi all, I have just heard of some Important braille signs which I always
>> used have been scrapped, What Is this world coming to?  They are all
>> religious signs we can't use, has this been done so as "Not to Offend"
>> the
>
>> non-Christians?  I doube for a mark of respect, what do you think? Did
>> you
>
>> know and would you still use them in your personal writings?
>> The nine religious contractions which should never have been scrapped
>> are:
>>
>> 1.   Dot five C for Christ.
>> 2.   F T H sign for faith.
>> 3.   G L for glory.
>> 4.   Dot five G for God.
>> 5.   G R for grace.
>> 6.   H L for holy.
>> 7.   Dot five J for Jesus.
>> 8.   S T H sign for saith.
>> 9.   Dots four-five-six u for unto.
>>
>> So what are we going to reuse these signs for now?
>>
>> Yours, disgusted, Christine W.
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