[access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?

  • From: "Angel" <Angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:54:18 -0400

What is e-text?  I had not heard of it. Explain this.  Does it work on 
certain types of phones?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?


> Angel, yes it is possible for death-blind people to use cell phones by
> texting and Braille output, and yes, it is phenomenally expensive too.
>
> I brought up e-text and its accessibility for precisely this reason,
> that it would empower all blind people, including those who are
> death-blind.
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf
> Of Angel
> Sent: 29 April 2007 2:57PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>
>
> I feel sad deaf blind are often left out of discussions of
> technological
> gadgets as, it seems, most blind want to have gadgets that talk. and
> if
> Braille is introduced in to the gadget it is very expensive.  I don't
> know
> how a deaf blind person would use a cell phone, for example,  though I
> suspect it is possible.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 8:10 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>
>
>> Yes, I mainly agree with you here Angel because not many Braille
> readers
>> consider DearfBlind people and the Even More challenges we need to
>> overcome
>> with braille being our Only way of communication!
>>
>> Christine.----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Angel" <Angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:33 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>>
>>
>> We are talking apples and oranges here, as Louis Braille was French
> and
>> the
>> contractions commonly used in English Braille are accent marks in
> that
>> language.  Everyone knows contractions make reading Braille much
> speedier
>> and save space.  I would be happy if there were even more of these
> and we
>> used grade three as a matter of course.  But that will never happen,
> only
>> in
>> my dreams.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:55 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Christine,
>>>
>>> I am a proficient Braillist.  I just don't like Grade two, because
> there
>>> is
>>> so much disagreement about it.  Louis Braille never invented Grade
> two,
>>> he
>>> merely invented Braille.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> --
>>> Computer Room Services:
>>> the long cane for blind computer users.
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Christine Weetman
>>> Sent: 28 April 2007 16:37
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>>>
>>> Hi Angel, No No No, Not dot five and c in My name, dot five and c
> for
>>> Christ, but not in Christmas either! lol  Don't ask me why, I was
> just
>>> taught it that way, so I didn't question it.  I am a Braille User
> and
>>> Proud
>>> of it so I don't accept what Steve said (below) braille was
> invented for
>>> the
>>> benefit of us who Need to use it, so maybe He doesn't and is
> luckier than
>>> us, but I am Full of admiration for those who use braille Correctly
> and
>>> Don't shout about their ignorance!
>>>
>>> All the best, Christine W,.----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Angel" <Angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:27 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>>>
>>>
>>> I hadn't thought of that about the Christ sign, though if that word
>>> appears
>>> in another faith's religious context couldn't the sign be used?  I
> think
>>> what I meant is it is not faith specific.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:05 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Angel,
>>>>
>>>> I don't think all of them encompass all faiths, for example Christ
> is
>>>> definitely Christian.  For my part, I am glad they are gone.  We
> are the
>>>> only country that used them in terms of Braille, so it didn't make
> any
>>>> sense.  Mind you, I hate Grade 2 anyway, it is so ambiguous, and
> gives
>>>> people writing translation software a big headache.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>> --
>>>> Computer Room Services:
>>>> the long cane for blind computer users.
>>>> Telephone Low-call:  08452 606 277
>>>> International:  +44(0)1438 742286,
>>>> Fax:  +44(0)1438 759589
>>>> mobile:  +44(0)7956 334938,
>>>> Email:  mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Web site:  http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
>>>> Of
>>>> Angel
>>>> Sent: 28 April 2007 06:49
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know?
>>>>
>>>> I always wondered whatever happened to those signs.  I didn't know
> they
>>>> had
>>>> been scrapped.  As they encompass all faiths I don't think they
> ought to
>>>> have been.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@freelists.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:42 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Braille readers, did you know?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all, I have just heard of some Important braille signs which I
>>>>> always
>>>>> used have been scrapped, What Is this world coming to?  They are
> all
>>>>> religious signs we can't use, has this been done so as "Not to
> Offend"
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> non-Christians?  I doube for a mark of respect, what do you
> think? Did
>>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>> know and would you still use them in your personal writings?
>>>>> The nine religious contractions which should never have been
> scrapped
>>>>> are:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.   Dot five C for Christ.
>>>>> 2.   F T H sign for faith.
>>>>> 3.   G L for glory.
>>>>> 4.   Dot five G for God.
>>>>> 5.   G R for grace.
>>>>> 6.   H L for holy.
>>>>> 7.   Dot five J for Jesus.
>>>>> 8.   S T H sign for saith.
>>>>> 9.   Dots four-five-six u for unto.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what are we going to reuse these signs for now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours, disgusted, Christine W.
>>>>>
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