All: I haven't checked S.E.B. for a few years but it was the case that religious texts had particular contractions. The dot fives were: C Christ G god L lord Another that comes to mind is Hl holy. David -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angel Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:44 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? I was just teasing about writing dot five c for Christmas. I think the reason these signs can not be used is because both are two syllables. I don't think you can use a sign like that if a word is two syllables. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? >O No no no, you Can't and Never Could use dot five C in Christine! My >name and my dear English/braille teacher taught me Never, Never to do >that, I never did and resented anyone else trying to do that. dot five >c is for christ and not for Christine nor Christmas! lol----- Original >Message ----- > From: "Peter Beasley" <p.beasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:37 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? > > > No it wasn't specific. For instance, you could use dot5 c in the name > Christine. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angel" <Angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:27 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? > > > I hadn't thought of that about the Christ sign, though if that word > appears in another faith's religious context couldn't the sign be > used? I think what I meant is it is not faith specific. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:05 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? > > >> Hi Angel, >> >> I don't think all of them encompass all faiths, for example Christ is >> definitely Christian. For my part, I am glad they are gone. We are the >> only country that used them in terms of Braille, so it didn't make any >> sense. Mind you, I hate Grade 2 anyway, it is so ambiguous, and gives >> people writing translation software a big headache. >> >> All the best >> -- >> Computer Room Services: >> the long cane for blind computer users. >> Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 >> International: +44(0)1438 742286, >> Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 >> mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, >> Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of >> Angel >> Sent: 28 April 2007 06:49 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? >> >> I always wondered whatever happened to those signs. I didn't know they >> had >> been scrapped. As they encompass all faiths I don't think they ought to >> have been. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> >> To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@freelists.org> >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:42 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] Braille readers, did you know? >> >> >>> Hi all, I have just heard of some Important braille signs which I always >>> used have been scrapped, What Is this world coming to? They are all >>> religious signs we can't use, has this been done so as "Not to Offend" >>> the >> >>> non-Christians? I doube for a mark of respect, what do you think? Did >>> you >> >>> know and would you still use them in your personal writings? >>> The nine religious contractions which should never have been scrapped >>> are: >>> >>> 1. Dot five C for Christ. >>> 2. F T H sign for faith. >>> 3. G L for glory. >>> 4. Dot five G for God. >>> 5. G R for grace. >>> 6. H L for holy. >>> 7. Dot five J for Jesus. >>> 8. S T H sign for saith. >>> 9. Dots four-five-six u for unto. >>> >>> So what are we going to reuse these signs for now? >>> >>> Yours, disgusted, Christine W. >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq