I much prefer Braille to any other form of reading. I don't see how grade 2 could be done away with as Braille is so bulky at the best of times! Best wishes, Joan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:36 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? > Hi Angel, No No No, Not dot five and c in My name, dot five and c for > Christ, but not in Christmas either! lol Don't ask me why, I was just > taught it that way, so I didn't question it. I am a Braille User and > Proud > of it so I don't accept what Steve said (below) braille was invented for > the > benefit of us who Need to use it, so maybe He doesn't and is luckier than > us, but I am Full of admiration for those who use braille Correctly and > Don't shout about their ignorance! > > All the best, Christine W,.----- Original Message ----- > From: "Angel" <Angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:27 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? > > > I hadn't thought of that about the Christ sign, though if that word > appears > in another faith's religious context couldn't the sign be used? I think > what I meant is it is not faith specific. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:05 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? > > >> Hi Angel, >> >> I don't think all of them encompass all faiths, for example Christ is >> definitely Christian. For my part, I am glad they are gone. We are the >> only country that used them in terms of Braille, so it didn't make any >> sense. Mind you, I hate Grade 2 anyway, it is so ambiguous, and gives >> people writing translation software a big headache. >> >> All the best >> -- >> Computer Room Services: >> the long cane for blind computer users. >> Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 >> International: +44(0)1438 742286, >> Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 >> mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, >> Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of >> Angel >> Sent: 28 April 2007 06:49 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille readers, did you know? >> >> I always wondered whatever happened to those signs. I didn't know they >> had >> been scrapped. As they encompass all faiths I don't think they ought to >> have been. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx> >> To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@freelists.org> >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:42 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] Braille readers, did you know? >> >> >>> Hi all, I have just heard of some Important braille signs which I always >>> used have been scrapped, What Is this world coming to? They are all >>> religious signs we can't use, has this been done so as "Not to Offend" >>> the >> >>> non-Christians? I doube for a mark of respect, what do you think? Did >>> you >> >>> know and would you still use them in your personal writings? >>> The nine religious contractions which should never have been scrapped >>> are: >>> >>> 1. Dot five C for Christ. >>> 2. F T H sign for faith. >>> 3. G L for glory. >>> 4. Dot five G for God. >>> 5. G R for grace. >>> 6. H L for holy. >>> 7. Dot five J for Jesus. >>> 8. S T H sign for saith. >>> 9. Dots four-five-six u for unto. >>> >>> So what are we going to reuse these signs for now? >>> >>> Yours, disgusted, Christine W. >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ NOD32 2225 (20070427) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq