If you get one then please let me know your source.
There seem to be quite a lot of sellers over there.
I came across
http://www.braillebookstore.com/
yesterday. They seem to have a good selection of items.
Carol P
Carol P
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Martha Burke" <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 5:53 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille Scrabble
good idea Carol, I would like to get one from the states I dearly.
On 11 Sep 2015, at 17:51, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Redacted sender "carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:ct
Someone may have one they wish to sell on. It's worth an ask, or find out what's available these days in the States.
Carol P
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Martha Burke" <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 5:48 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille Scrabble
Carol thank you for taking the time and trouble to write. if I send the game back then I won't have one sent this is where they have me so to speak. however I just felt it was worth talking about on the list to get other people's views and to find out if I was alone or if others were of the same opinion. I just think it's a great pity that RNIB are not consulting more with blind people.
On 11 Sep 2015, at 17:38, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Redacted sender "carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ugh, Eleanor!
I hope you're going to say something and send it back. I certainly wouldn't buy it ...
A year or so back we had trouble with long canes and not being able to fold them after use. Although people helpfully suggested lubricating and pulling hard etc., we didn't feel we could manage this easily ourselves and so, eventually, got refunds for the two they'd sent, both of which were impossible for me to take apart once I'd used them. I consider myself to be quite strong but couldn't imagine any older lady, just a bit frail, managing any better than I had, but RNIB wouldn't acknowledge the problem and those canes are still being sold, so far as I am aware. There were no instructions suggesting that they needed lubricating or anything and, anyway, we didn't feel competent to do this ourselves. We eventually gave up and purchased one from QAC. It's not really quite as sturdy feeling in some ways and a little more expensive, but at least I can fold it down on the bus and when I reach home once again.
Then Mike bought a watch some time about eighteen months back and it kept gaining - well, it was odd: the small hand would move so at some point (usually within a few days) it was saying the wrong hour. We debated sending it back but, to be honest, by the time we'd searched for a pattern in its behaviour and not really found one and had worked out it was only the hour hand that was showing the problem we couldn't really send it back within a reasonable time so the months passed. Eventually Mike was sick of it as it was unwearable unless you were checking time each day with something else, so he put it into a shop for checking and/orrepair. They said it was awful, something was shot in it, but I can't quite remember what. It cost quite a lot for repair, though by that time we didn't have any of the guarantee remaining, but at least it's now working fine!
Strangely enough, just a few months back, Mike was speaking to someone else who had had exactly the same problem but couldn't pin it down either ... so we're not very happy with the quality control right at the moment. A totally blind person would definitely have had to report on that watch fault if they had had it to trial for about a month.
Carol P
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Martha Burke" <eleanormarthaburke@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:40 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille Scrabble
Well said Mike, I paid £29.45p approx for this. My friend got it from RNIB on Wednesday and I went to her place to play it yesterday. I think it would be fair to see that I required sighted help and unfortunately I required it more and more as we built up the words as it got more and more unmanagable for me to look at the board independently and meaningfully. I am ot really stupid but I might well have appeared so yesterday or as one who required sighted assistance when I did not really need it and all that is thanks to RNIB for selling a hidious board. My friend had a scrabbled board but the tiles did not fit it and her scrabble board had a type of plastic grid where the tiles can sit in so that they do not move or become dislodged. If the Braille instructions are on the RNIB website, I do not know if they are there as a Word document, then Carol could read the description of the board, other than that Carol I will get around to copying out what the Braille instru
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Ray" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 4:29 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille Scrabble
I agree with Eleanor that the design is ludicrously stupid. It's far
too easy to push or knock the tiles out of place while groping around to
read what's there.
But, it is unlikely to have been designed by the RNIB, I would think.
Since 'Scrabble' is no doubt a jealousy guarded trademark product it
would have been designed by whoever owns the mark.
Either way it clearly didn't bother asking a blind Braille reader to
test the prototype, or ask a blind person of average intelligence what
it needed to be like. In my experience it is virtually unplayable if
you can't see at all.
Your time might be better spent asking the RNIB why they are pruning
items from their product range faster than I can keep up with.
On 11/09/2015 15:35, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Redacted sender
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx for DMARC) wrote:
I haven't seen one in several years now as I still have the old one so, if you can tell me more, I am interested.
Carol P
----- Original Message ----- From: Eleanor burke
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 1:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille Scrabble
it is not a new one out Carol, it would be new to myself as I haven't purchased one for years. I think this one is out three of four years.
On 11 Sep 2015, at 13:02, Carol.Pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Redacted sender "carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Eleanor,
Oh, I didn't know RNIB had a new one out.
If it's worse than the last one then let's not bother, but please tell me all about it.
Carol P
----- Original Message ----- From: Eleanor Martha Burke
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Braille Scrabble
Hope it is OK discussing Braille Scrabble here. Purchased this game on Wednesday and played it for the first time yesterday. The board design is certainly changed since I first purchased it back in the 1980s when the scrabble board was an American one and the tiles fitted in so well. Then I had a new cheap and horrible board after my nice American one got lost in the post. Finally today's board is very ppoorly designed in my opinion. Wonder why the RNIB has chosen this design rather than a design where the tiles can fit in comfortably without moving about or lifting off the board. How do current users of Scrabble get on with the board? Very disappointed in it really for £29.45p when you consider a mainstream one is so cheap. As the game builds up and there are more and more tiles on the board it is quite difficult really to explore the board without moving the tiles accidentally.
Eleanor
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