Hi Graham Good points. I mentioned a few as they're the main ones that I train with. However, I'm aware that there may be others that creep in. Essentially, I'm looking at the capabilities of these machines of converting word/text/rich text files into Grade 2 Braille and how they can handle the translation. I'm prioritisng machines that have Braille displays, but am not worried about whether they are qwerty or Braille input. However, this does not rule out PacMate BNS, VoiceNote etc. from the mix. Yes, I'd be more than happy to share results (obviously no names supplied) on list. Cheers for now Ian. iancbev@xxxxxxxxxxx MSN ianbev72@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype bevers01 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: 29 November 2006 22:41 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille PDA's Hi Ian. While I accept that loads of messages to the list saying the same thing could cause a serious upsurge in traffic, I think the general question and particularly its findings may be of interest. So will you be in a position to send details of what you find to the list? Secondly, you have mentioned the main UK contenders in Braillelite, Pacmate, Braillenote/voicenote and the braille sense. I know there were products like the Elba which looked interesting too but don't think that ever got off the ground, certainly in the UK. Are you also counting Mainstream PDAs with Braille displays or Braille keyboards? there are a number of solutions in this field though I think most would work better with QWERTY keyboards, Braille displays can also be attached. There's the Hal screenreader with a PDA such as the Dell Axim and also the Maestro software which can be bundled with Trekker. I don't know if Maestro has Braille dribers yet though. Humanware would. TALKS can, in theory, be used with a Braille display though I don't know of anything but the communicator being used in this way. It would certainly be interesting to know which poortable Braille solution is most popular however. Regards graham ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Beverley" <iancbev@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <brailleuk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:38 PM Subject: [access-uk] Braille PDA's Hi guys I have some questions that I hope as many of you as possible could help me with. Now this is not part of any scientific research, but is really a plea for thoughts and opinions. Unless, anybody feels that this would be of more general interest, could you reply to me off-list by using the details given at the bottom of this E-mail. Furthermore, I'll put my work E-mail address on there too, so it does at least give options. For the purposes of this, I'm counting a Braille PDA as counting anything from the BrailleNote to PacMate, BrailleSense to the Braille Lite and anything around this area. 1. For those who have one, what type of Braille PDA do you use? Is this for study, work or private use? 2. Do you import information onto your PDA and if so, in what format? i.e. MS word, RTF, etc. 3. What would you say are the most commonly used Braille PDA's within the UK? This should start things off. I hope that as many of you as possible can respond to this. This is work related, but I can assure you that everything that you say does not get passed on to anybody else and full confidentiality is respected. 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