The guy sitting opposite me has one. You turn shuffle mode on/off as you like. JT -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Farley Sent: 07 March 2005 18:39 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Bookcourier V IPOD Shuffle Thanks Steve, That confirms my thoughts, but with one additional item. I did not realise that you could not turn shuffle mode off! As I want it for audio books that limitation puts it completely out of the game. I'll get in touch with you when I decide I can afford the £225. Cheers. Regards, John Contact on : (Home) john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or : (work) john.farley@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 07 March 2005 08:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Bookcourier V IPOD Shuffle Hi John, First, we can sell you a Book Courier, price is 225 pounds. Next, as I understand it, the problem with the Shuffle, is that you have to use the Itunes software to transfer data, and this is pretty inaccessible, as I understand, although I have never used it. Secondly, shuffle gets its name from the fact that it never plays music files in the same order. In other words, you have no control over the order in which the files will be played. Because of this, I don't count it as an accessible MP3 player. The Book Courier on the other hand, will play files, usually in the order transferred, although again, we don't really have control over that, but it certainly doesn't play them in a different order every time, as the Shuffle does. The idea of the shuffle is that it literally shuffles every time, so effectlively, shuffle play is turned on all the time. If you don't mind that, the shuffle is indeed accessible, as I understand it, but with so little control of the unit, I wouldn't buy one. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Farley Sent: 06 March 2005 22:39 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Bookcourier V IPOD Shuffle Hello list, From what has been seen recently on this and other lists I have come to the following conclusion: The IPOD Shuffle is an accessible devise in its own right, but there are access issues with loading it from the PC. Bookcourier, while being more expensive, at least in the UK, is probably a better piece of kit to go for as it is a purpose designed device and will fit VI need properly. First, it this view correct? Secondly, where is the bet place to source one from? Regards, John. 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