Léonie said to Amro, "I'd definitely recommend dropping Barclays a line. As much as it's important to highlight the obstacles, it's also important to encourage the solutions. I'm with you on the rant though." Why? If a company *only* addresses the needs of the sighted that is viewed as discrimination! So is it not also just as wrong if the company *only* addresses the needs of the sighted, and the blind, visually impaired. Do you consider the Deafblind don't count? Note that although I am happy with the way Loyds/tsb are going about it, I still feel that the Deafblind should not be put on a lower level to the hearing blind. My own bank HSBC sees no need for the key pads, perhaps they feel their security is already better! Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq