Phil, I know, or am pretty certain, there is a UK-based Mac list, and when I find out exactly where it is and how to join, II'll let the list know. Two brief comments: it would be interesting to know how usable Office for the Mac now is, if its usable at all that is. Gordon has said he's using a dual boot machine, rather than virtualisation, which of course is doable now that Macs are Intel based. I cannot see that the Mac environment and its use is really off topic here. The more news circulates about this alternative the better, surely. Lets face it, for someone starting out now, who's losing their site the Mac must be a very tempting alternative on grounds of cost alone; but then the Mac would appear to have a lot going for it besides that important consideration. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- phil stephenson Hi Gordon, I am very, very interested in your experience so far....I have some questions however which I will ask on list but maybe we need to email or something separately... What software are you planning on using for MS Office type applications e.g. word processing, spreadsheets? I know Macs come with their own word processors software, have you used this yet and if so how did you get on or are you planning on using something else? How are you getting on with Itunes & voiceover - if indeed this is what you're planning on using - again I know Voiceover access with Itunes has been greatly improved but wondering what you've discovered so far. Which software do you think you will still need to use via the windows virtualisation? How easy was it to set up the windows virtualisation? That will do for now, very interested to hear your comments but perhaps other list members / moderators would rather we did so privately!! Thanks, Phil To connect with me: Email: phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mobile : 07841 714931 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon Keen Sent: 08 November 2007 15:25 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Back on a mac! Well, here I am returned to the list transmogrified in to a mac user. It's weird at first but I am picking up the new keystrokes quicker than I thought I would. Voiceover is clear, if a little idiosyncratic, Alex (the default voice I am using at present) sounds a little harassed at times and I worry that I am putting him under a little too much stress - he is a little asthmatic too! I still have windows on the dual boot of course but I am using it less each day. I am greatly impressed and think this is a move many people could make with no great trauma (excepting to the bank account of course). ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq __________ NOD32 2646 (20071108) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq