Nice to hear Gordon. Bear in mind though that people who bring this up are making comparisons with what Window-Eyes and JfW can reveal in web pages, and might be what would be called 'more advanced' users. ( Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Gordon Keen Actually I have been rather pleased with web browsing using safari and was delighted by the smooth operation of the BBC radio player but it's one man's meat I guess. Cheers! Gordon From glorious Devon, England. On 9 Nov 2007, at 13:33, Ray's Home wrote: > Phil and others interested, one thing to report from my gleanings from > another list. > > Seems Apple, even with the release of the much improved VoiceOver with > Leopard, still haven't addressed concerns about VO and Safari web > browser used on the Mac. Seems not nearly enough is being revealed to > VO in Safari. You have to wonder what the hell is going on. > > I'll speculate that Apple, like Microsoft, doesn't get all the > development teams singing from the same song sheet and it looks as if > the Safari developers haven't got the message as regards propper > accessability. Well, that's my guess. > > Cheers, > > From Ray > I can be contacted off-list at: > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > phil stephenson > > > No worries Gordon, I can hold on, but less of the "old man" please?!!! > I am > tracking other lists & websites and have a few friends with a Mac who > may > let me have a play with theirs for a while! > > Happy discovering!! > > Cheers, > > Phil > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of > Gordon Keen > Sent: 08 November 2007 19:37 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Back on a mac! > > As I understand it this list is to discuss all aspects of access > technology for the visually impaired and is not limited to, spit, > > products. > I am delighted you are interested in this subject but would ask you to > hold > on a bit old man, I have only had use of the leopard and voiceover > software > for about three days, I am not a superman and it is going to take a > while to > learn all the in and outs of this package. > I have no doubt there are some blind folks out there who have much > mor > experience of trialling and assesing new technology who might be able > to > respond to your questions faster than I so if anyone else would care > to leap > in... > On 8 Nov 2007, at 16:09, phil stephenson wrote: > >> Hi Gordon, >> >> I am very, very interested in your experience so far....I have some >> questions however which I will ask on list but maybe we need to > email >> or something separately... >> >> What software are you planning on using for MS Office type >> applications e.g. >> word processing, spreadsheets? I know Macs come with their own word >> processors software, have you used this yet and if so how did you > get >> on or are you planning on using something else? >> >> How are you getting on with Itunes & voiceover - if indeed this is >> what you're planning on using - again I know Voiceover access with >> Itunes has been greatly improved but wondering what you've > discovered >> so far. >> >> Which software do you think you will still need to use via the > windows >> virtualisation? >> >> How easy was it to set up the windows virtualisation? >> >> That will do for now, very interested to hear your comments but >> perhaps other list members / moderators would rather we did so >> privately!! >> Thanks, >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> To connect with me: >> >> Email: phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Mobile : 07841 714931 >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Gordon Keen >> Sent: 08 November 2007 15:25 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Back on a mac! >> >> Well, here I am returned to the list transmogrified in to a mac > user. >> >> It's weird at first but I am picking up the new keystrokes quicker >> than I thought I would. >> Voiceover is clear, if a little idiosyncratic, Alex (the default > voice >> I am using at present) sounds a little harassed at times and I worry >> that I am putting him under a little too much stress - he is a > little >> asthmatic too! >> >> I still have windows on the dual boot of course but I am using it > less >> each day. >> > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq