That is a bit obscure. Iain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:28 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC Poetry Out Loud: How's this for accessability? Youshould use window-eyes. I had absolutely no trouble reading that particular poem. I found a button which said "inactive control" and when I pressed the spacebar on it real player came on and the poem was read. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:06 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC Poetry Out Loud: How's this for accessability? > Ah yes, I see. Now I've just tried to hear the one by John Hegley using > JAWS 7.0 and I can't find any link or button - not even un unlabelled > one - to activate the video. The only links are for real player and close > this page. I haven't disabled flash. Does anyone else share this > experience? > > Catherine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:02 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC Poetry Out Loud: How's this for > accessability? > > >> Hi Ray, It depends which of the poems you want to listen to. I tried the >> Turkeys poem, the one by John Hegley and the cat protection league. All >> three took me to a pop up, the first and last had a link watch this poem >> or something similar which then launched real player and began playing. >> The second one seemed to use flash and had a button which WE 5.0 >> described as inactive control. I pressed enter on this which then brought >> the same page with 4 buttons completely unlabelled. Pressed enter on the >> top one and the poem began to play. >> Yusuf >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: "Access-Uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:32 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] BBC Poetry Out Loud: How's this for accessability? >> >> >>> Just discovered via an email newsletter the BBC's Poetry Outloud page >>> at: >>> >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/poetry/outloud/index.shtml >>> >>> I find it works only with Internet Explorer, (I use Firefox by default). >>> >>> Each link to the poems brings up yet another encarnation of Real Player, >>> and >>> I only got Window-Eyes to recognize these Real Player buttons by >>> labeling >>> them. >>> >>> So, Question: Is it just me? Or has the Beeb given us another less >>> than >>> ideally accessable page? I'll be interested to see how all, and any >>> variety >>> of screen readers handle this page. >>> >>> From Ray >>> I can be contacted off-list at: >>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >>> >>> >> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq