[access-uk] Re: BBC Iplayer

  • From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:31:49 +0100

Hmmmmmm, and is Julie Shiller a screen reader user? Not another sighted person 
that uses a screen reader from a sighted 
persons perspective of testing applications?

Eric Hugger is the head of future media and technology and Andrea Kalander the 
head of diversity, I think that we should be petitioning people with  that 
seniority for improvements, after all they are answerable for any infringements 
to accessibility and equality.

I've viewed the BCAB archive on the I Player thread, and apart from one message 
that demonstrated just what and how systemic the problem at the BBC is, there 
didn't seem to be anything of any more interest.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rays Home 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 10:49 AM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC Iplayer

  Colin and others, I've heard directly from two people involved in aspects of 
IPlayer, Michael Smethurst who works on "programmes" and Julie Schiller who is 
more involved in the IPlayer development team.  They both have email addresses 
attached to there respective names at bbc.co.uk.

  Julie Schiller did comment that including keyboard commands didn't always tie 
in with different screen reader capabilities but whilst there could be keyboard 
conflicts and the like, I'd say it is safe to assume screen readers that do 
identify Flash objects should have no problem with whatever the Beeb does in 

  It should, of course have done these things from the start, and I never 
understand why it is that accessability in all its forms doesn't get included 
automatically in the develpment process before ever a line of code is written.

  On the point of paralell discussions on lists, yes it would be nice and tidy 
if it was all in one place;  but that sort of thinking belongs propperly to the 
realm of data storage and not so much to human affairs and concerns.

  This said, maybe pointers to the names of threads on other lists could be 
cited in discussions?  Remember most tech lists can be followed via the list 
archives on the net, including this list, so you don't actually have to 
subscribe to know what's being discussed else where.  (The BCAB archives can be 
viewed on-line.)

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Colin Fowler 
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC Iplayer

    Hi Ray,

    I've only just re joined the list so I may have missed your earlier posts 
on this matter. Who's advised you of these key board functionality changes? and 
from what team? E mail me off list if you want.

    I would agree that in touch isn't worth us wasting our time with, and I 
doubt whether You and Yours will treat our view seriously either. We need to 
jointly make our dissatisfaction known to the head of future media and 
technology within the BBC, and at the same time to their head of diversity for 
breaching their obligations for due regard for equality of opportunity under 
the DED.


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