[access-uk] Re: BBC IPLAYER

  • From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:14:18 +0100

It is not the Iplayer being discussed I had a problem with, rather forwarding a 
message to members of an organisation and slagging them off on this public 
list, rather than their own list as many of its board etc aren't on this list.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Vanja Sudar 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:06 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC IPLAYER


  I don't see at all how discussing BBC Iplayer is irrelevant to this list. 
This list is about technology and access/accessibility of said technology and 
BBC Iplayer is internet application and we're talking about accessibility of 
it. Where's the problem here? Am I missing something? Also, as I haven't really 
said anything about it so far, I generally agree with what seems to be 
majority. In generally I find BBC player to be reasonably accessible except the 
volume, which is important, but I wouldn't say that it makes player unusable. I 
do find it a bit strange that it'd take BBC till October to sort this out. On 
the other hand this might not mean that it will take them till October, but 
they're saying this to cover themselves as they might be  encountering 
difficulties making these developments. Although of course the player should 
have been fully accessible to start with.
  Vanja
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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Rays Home 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:33 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC IPLAYER


    Well Richard, despite the fact some self appointed moderators are saying it 
offends their sense of organisation and logic, to discuss the IPlayer here, I 
hope people will occasionally update us and add views because it is being 
discussed very litle or not at all else where, including the BCAB list.

    While we're at it why not tell all those folk who are interested in mobile 
phones to go and discuss them elsewhere?  I believe their is a list elsewhere.  
In fact most messages here could be said to be suitable for other lists.

    At least Léonie has taken note and found some of this discussion useful.  A 
discussion which has been much less obsessive than some threads we've had here.

    Cheers,
    Ray.

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Richard Godfrey-McKay 
      Subject: [access-uk] BBC IPLAYER


      Hi, I paste below a note from the BCAB Chair re this matter.  It seems to 
me that it isn't acceptable for BCAB to say "Well they are trying to fix it by 
October".  The BBC have, unless Colin can tell me otherwise, an anticipatory 
duty not to do this sort of thing in the first place.  A Retrofit isn't good 
enough in my view.  We need to get people who provide this kind of service to 
appreciate exactly what their obligations are.  I'm not particularly militant, 
but as a lawyer, I do believe that you can't decide what bit of the law you 
decide to observe and by when, without accepting the consequences.  (Grumpy 
from Scotland). 

      Quote from BCAB follows:
      "I thought I would update you all on the BBC I-Player.  First I would 
like to thank all of you who responded to my request for comments about any 
issues you had had with the I-player.
       
      Just about everybody commented that while it was possible to listen to 
complete programmes it was not possible to jump forward and backwards nor to 
adjust the volume.  Tink and one of her colleagues at work had a look at the 
I-player and observed that the problems related to two slider controls with the 
I-player.  She has been in contact with the BBC developers and they are aware 
of this issue and are working hard to resolve the issue.  While it would have 
been possible for them to put a quick and dirty fix in place they are 
developing a solution that will be more robust and hope to have this in place 
by October.
       
      The issue was discussed on In Touch this week so you can 'listen again' 
to the programme if you want at:
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00cvbkr/ <?xml:namespace prefix = o 
ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> 

       

      Also  the BBC will be setting up a blog with the start of a Hints'N'Tips 
doc 4 visually impaired users.

       

      We will keep an eye on the situation and hope the BBC meet their 
deadline."


      Richard Godfrey-McKay
      Tel: (01738) 445 880
      Mobile: (07791) 452 593

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