[access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)

  • From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 16:18:01 +0100

Sorry, but this just isn't correct!

I'm a Sky user, and although I had to add ITV plus 1 manually, it does carry AD. ITV plus 2 on 179 and ITV 3 plus 1 on 180 also carry audio description.

Again, can't be sure of ITV 4 plus 1 as I haven't a recent experience of using it.

Darran


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 11:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)


Hi Paul,

The Plus 1 channels are not described.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Paul Roberts
Sent: 06 September 2014 23:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)

THANKS Darren.

When I last tried ItV plus 1 during corronation street, the aD wasn't
pressent but the menu was deffinately set up as I had been using AD that
week.

Paul.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:39 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)


: Clive, Paul, all my ITV plus 1 channels do seem to have AD. This is
: definitely the case for ITV 1, 2 and 3, can't be so sure about 4, haven't
: tried that recently!
:
: Oh, and this is both on Freeview and Sky.
:
: Darran
:
: ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Paul Roberts" <anorack@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 12:34 AM
: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)
:
:
: > Hi Clive,
: >
: > Would agree about ITV's site, as the play button is in an image and
: > therefore not very user friendly to VI people.
: >
: > It may be better on the Iphone but i've not quite got that far.
: >
: > regarding films, sometimes i've seen a film listed with aD before it and : > then a year or so later, when the same film is being transmitted, there
is
: > no AD reference.
: >
: > Now, it's possible that the film may have audio description even if the
AD
: > reference wasn't mentioned at the time.
: >
: > I think there are more films with AD than before.
: >
: > tonight and for the third year running, ITV are showing The Boat That
: > Rocked
: > and in all intances, it's had AD listed before it and certainly the last
: > two
: > ocasions, AD was present. Not sure about tonight as I didn't tune in.
: >
: > Yes, rather odd that ITV 1 plus doesn't seem to have the AD facility
: > ,which
: > I'm sure could be easily sorted out.
: >
: > Paul.
: > ----- Original Message ----- : > From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
: > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:43 PM
: > Subject: [access-uk] Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)
: >
: >
: > : Hello all,
: > :
: > : A few weeks ago I looked through the Braille TV guide for one week and
: > noticed that though programmes like soaps have audio description more
: > often
: > than not, AD films were relatively few and far between.
: > :
: > : As far as ITV goes, I think it's a drag that:
: > :
: > : 1. ITV player accessibility still leaves something to be desired, and : > : 2. Programmes which are audio described at transmission time are never
: > described on ITV plus 1...ulness, of course, you know different.
: > :
: > : Best,
: > : Clive
: > :
: > :
: > : -----Original Message-----
: > : From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
: > Of carol.pearson29@
: > : Sent: 05 September 2014 12:28
: > : To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > : Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
: > :
: > : ITV are far better than BBC for AD, though of course I can't speak for
: > Sky.
: > :
: > : Carol P
: > :
: > :
: > : ----- Original Message -----
: > : From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: > : To:  access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > : CC:
: > : Date: Friday, 5 September 2014 10.46 am
: > : Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
: > :
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Hi,
: > : >
: > : > There is quite a bit of AD from the BBC.  Sky are the best at it
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > All the best
: > : >
: > : > Steve
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: > : >
: > : > -----Original Message-----
: > : > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
: > : > Behalf Of Hazel Darvell
: > : > Sent: 05 September 2014 10.33
: > : > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > : > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
: > : >
: > : > Here's my take on this.
: > : > As we don't have a television it doesn't affect us but radio is
: > : > another matter.
: > : > The radio 4 helpline has been a very useful source of information
for
: > : > many years now but recently I had reason to call them but what a
: > : > complete mess it is now.
: > : > I know for some time it has dropped their 24 hour service and who
can
: > : > blame them for that but now all you get is options to press then
: > : > announcements after that.
: > : > You get no choice at all to speak to someone so really there is no
: > : > helpline now.
: > : > I expect they want everyone to find out from their website, but I
: > : > can't seem to get my head around that site at all.
: > : >
: > : > All in all they don't think of blind people very much as there has
: > : > been subtitles from the word go but as I hear not too much AD.
: > : > Hazel
: > : > On 04/09/2014 15.23, ,c;live.,l;ever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
: > : > Hi all,
: > : >
: > : > And what about the limitations to access we still face as
: > visually-impaired TV viewers, which means we get less for our money?
: > Consider issues such as:
: > : >
: > : > * that a significant number of BBC TV programmes that require audio
: > : > description don't carry it
: > : > * That the spoken content of too many news items are written to
assume
: > : > site--what does ";This, followed by this, leads to this" mean
: > : > * that opportunities to participate further in some programmes are
not
: > there for us--"Please phone, email or visit our website us now. The
: > details
: > are on your screen.", or the 'pointless' round which lives up to the
name
: > of
: > the programme for us: "Now the picture round. Can you put the names to
the
: > following pictures: A...B...C...D...ENCE"?
: > : >
: > : > In a nutshell, the licence concession is not just about how much
money
: > you have in your pocket. It's also about how much value you get when you : > shell out that money. Personally, as a blind person, I'd be happy to pay
: > the
: > full licence if I was getting the full service, but, though things are
: > improving, there are too many unnecessary exclusions. Do people think
that
: > it's getting any easier to find out whether the specific programme you
: > want
: > to catch up with is audio-described on IPlayer?
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > I think the BBC are getting there, but they're still on the journey.
: > : >
: > : > Best,
: > : > Clive
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > -----Original Message-----
: > : > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
: > : > Behalf Of Jonathan H
: > : > Sent: 04 September 2014 15.04
: > : > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: > : > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
: > : >
: > : > Given that there's nothing about this at all anywhere else on
forums,
: > : > newsgroups, twitter, Facebook or indeed any news outlet, mainstream
or
: > : > independent, I'd say your "word of mouth" source is is a position to
: > : > break quite a news story.
: > : >
: > : > Any idea what your source's source is?
: > : >
: > : > On 4 September 2014 14.55, Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
: > wrote:
: > : 0" Hi Folks
: > : 0"
: > : 0" Just to give everyone a heads up.) be advised the following is by
: > word
: > of 0" mouth at present) 0"
: > : 0" According to rumours currently in circulation the BBC are in the
: > process of 0" abandoning the concessionary TV licence for blind and
: > visually
: > impaired 0" people and in addition are abandoning the free licence
scheme
: > for people 0" over the age of 75) or is it 73?) 0" Why are they doing
: > this?
: > my guess is as good as yours right now but one 0" possibility is that
most
: > people have an internet enabled device of one sort 0" of other whether
it
: > be
: > a computer or mobile phone.
: > : 0" ALL these devices , under current legislation, require the owner to
: > have a 0" valid TV licence as part of the ownership package.
: > : 0"
: > : 0" The BBC have reasoned that, if you can afford   one of these
devices
: > you can
: > : 0" afford a full licence$, they omit conveniently that the changes in
0"
: > technology are the primary cause of people migrating to these devices
and
: > in
: > 0" many respects have little or no choice.
: > : 0"
: > : 0" IF there is truth in this then this measure should be opposed
: > vigorously, .
: > : 0" especially taking into account the cost of living and incomes
either
: > staying 0" static over the foreseeable future or even declining.
: > : 0"
: > : 0" ATB
: > : 0"
: > : 0" Shaun
: > : 0"
: > : 0"
: > : 0"
: > : 0"
: > : 0" --
: > : 0" PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT--not A CONCESSION
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