[access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)

  • From: "Paul Roberts" <anorack@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 23:32:58 +0100

Thanks steve,

Paul.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 11:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)


: Hi Paul,
:
: The Plus 1 channels are not described.
:
: All the best
:
: Steve
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: -----Original Message-----
: From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of
: Paul Roberts
: Sent: 06 September 2014 23:03
: To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)
:
: THANKS Darren.
:
: When I last tried ItV plus 1 during corronation street, the aD wasn't
: pressent but the menu was deffinately set up as I had been using AD that
: week.
:
: Paul.
: ----- Original Message ----- 
: From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:39 PM
: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)
:
:
:: Clive, Paul, all my ITV plus 1 channels do seem to have AD. This is
:: definitely the case for ITV 1, 2 and 3, can't be so sure about 4, haven't
:: tried that recently!
::
:: Oh, and this is both on Freeview and Sky.
::
:: Darran
::
:: ----- Original Message ----- 
:: From: "Paul Roberts" <anorack@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
:: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 12:34 AM
:: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)
::
::
:: > Hi Clive,
:: >
:: > Would agree about ITV's site, as the play button is in an image and
:: > therefore not very user friendly to VI people.
:: >
:: > It may be better on the Iphone but i've not quite got that far.
:: >
:: > regarding films, sometimes i've seen a film listed with aD before it 
and
:: > then a year or so later, when the same film is being transmitted, there
: is
:: > no AD reference.
:: >
:: > Now, it's possible that the film may have audio description even if the
: AD
:: > reference wasn't mentioned at the time.
:: >
:: > I think there are more films with AD than before.
:: >
:: > tonight and for the third year running, ITV are showing The Boat That
:: > Rocked
:: > and in all intances, it's had AD listed before it and certainly the 
last
:: > two
:: > ocasions, AD was present. Not sure about tonight as I didn't tune in.
:: >
:: > Yes, rather odd that ITV 1 plus doesn't seem to have the AD facility
:: > ,which
:: > I'm sure could be easily sorted out.
:: >
:: > Paul.
:: > ----- Original Message ----- 
:: > From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
:: > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:: > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:43 PM
:: > Subject: [access-uk] Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes)
:: >
:: >
:: > : Hello all,
:: > :
:: > : A few weeks ago I looked through the Braille TV guide for one week 
and
:: > noticed that though programmes like soaps have audio description more
:: > often
:: > than not, AD films were relatively few and far between.
:: > :
:: > : As far as ITV goes, I think it's a drag that:
:: > :
:: > : 1. ITV player accessibility still leaves something to be desired, and
:: > : 2. Programmes which are audio described at transmission time are 
never
:: > described on ITV plus 1...ulness, of course, you know different.
:: > :
:: > : Best,
:: > : Clive
:: > :
:: > :
:: > : -----Original Message-----
:: > : From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
: Behalf
:: > Of carol.pearson29@
:: > : Sent: 05 September 2014 12:28
:: > : To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
:: > : Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
:: > :
:: > : ITV are far better than BBC for AD, though of course I can't speak 
for
:: > Sky.
:: > :
:: > : Carol P
:: > :
:: > :
:: > : ----- Original Message -----
:: > : From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:: > : To:  access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
:: > : CC:
:: > : Date: Friday, 5 September 2014 10.46 am
:: > : Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
:: > :
:: > : >
:: > : >
:: > : > Hi,
:: > : >
:: > : > There is quite a bit of AD from the BBC.  Sky are the best at it
:: > though.
:: > : >
:: > : > All the best
:: > : >
:: > : > Steve
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:: > : >
:: > : > -----Original Message-----
:: > : > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
:: > : > Behalf Of Hazel Darvell
:: > : > Sent: 05 September 2014 10.33
:: > : > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
:: > : > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
:: > : >
:: > : > Here's my take on this.
:: > : > As we don't have a television it doesn't affect us but radio is
:: > : > another matter.
:: > : > The radio 4 helpline has been a very useful source of information
: for
:: > : > many years now but recently I had reason to call them but what a
:: > : > complete mess it is now.
:: > : > I know for some time it has dropped their 24 hour service and who
: can
:: > : > blame them for that but now all you get is options to press then
:: > : > announcements after that.
:: > : > You get no choice at all to speak to someone so really there is no
:: > : > helpline now.
:: > : > I expect they want everyone to find out from their website, but I
:: > : > can't seem to get my head around that site at all.
:: > : >
:: > : > All in all they don't think of blind people very much as there has
:: > : > been subtitles from the word go but as I hear not too much AD.
:: > : > Hazel
:: > : > On 04/09/2014 15.23, ,c;live.,l;ever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
:: > : > Hi all,
:: > : >
:: > : > And what about the limitations to access we still face as
:: > visually-impaired TV viewers, which means we get less for our money?
:: > Consider issues such as:
:: > : >
:: > : > * that a significant number of BBC TV programmes that require audio
:: > : > description don't carry it
:: > : > * That the spoken content of too many news items are written to
: assume
:: > : > site--what does ";This, followed by this, leads to this" mean
:: > : > * that opportunities to participate further in some programmes are
: not
:: > there for us--"Please phone, email or visit our website us now. The
:: > details
:: > are on your screen.", or the 'pointless' round which lives up to the
: name
:: > of
:: > the programme for us: "Now the picture round. Can you put the names to
: the
:: > following pictures: A...B...C...D...ENCE"?
:: > : >
:: > : > In a nutshell, the licence concession is not just about how much
: money
:: > you have in your pocket. It's also about how much value you get when 
you
:: > shell out that money. Personally, as a blind person, I'd be happy to 
pay
:: > the
:: > full licence if I was getting the full service, but, though things are
:: > improving, there are too many unnecessary exclusions. Do people think
: that
:: > it's getting any easier to find out whether the specific programme you
:: > want
:: > to catch up with is audio-described on IPlayer?
:: > : >
:: > : >
:: > : > I think the BBC are getting there, but they're still on the 
journey.
:: > : >
:: > : > Best,
:: > : > Clive
:: > : >
:: > : >
:: > : > -----Original Message-----
:: > : > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
:: > : > Behalf Of Jonathan H
:: > : > Sent: 04 September 2014 15.04
:: > : > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
:: > : > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
:: > : >
:: > : > Given that there's nothing about this at all anywhere else on
: forums,
:: > : > newsgroups, twitter, Facebook or indeed any news outlet, mainstream
: or
:: > : > independent, I'd say your "word of mouth" source is is a position 
to
:: > : > break quite a news story.
:: > : >
:: > : > Any idea what your source's source is?
:: > : >
:: > : > On 4 September 2014 14.55, Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
:: > wrote:
:: > : 0" Hi Folks
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0" Just to give everyone a heads up.) be advised the following is by
:: > word
:: > of 0" mouth at present) 0"
:: > : 0" According to rumours currently in circulation the BBC are in the
:: > process of 0" abandoning the concessionary TV licence for blind and
:: > visually
:: > impaired 0" people and in addition are abandoning the free licence
: scheme
:: > for people 0" over the age of 75) or is it 73?) 0" Why are they doing
:: > this?
:: > my guess is as good as yours right now but one 0" possibility is that
: most
:: > people have an internet enabled device of one sort 0" of other whether
: it
:: > be
:: > a computer or mobile phone.
:: > : 0" ALL these devices , under current legislation, require the owner 
to
:: > have a 0" valid TV licence as part of the ownership package.
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0" The BBC have reasoned that, if you can afford   one of these
: devices
:: > you can
:: > : 0" afford a full licence$, they omit conveniently that the changes in
: 0"
:: > technology are the primary cause of people migrating to these devices
: and
:: > in
:: > 0" many respects have little or no choice.
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0" IF there is truth in this then this measure should be opposed
:: > vigorously, .
:: > : 0" especially taking into account the cost of living and incomes
: either
:: > staying 0" static over the foreseeable future or even declining.
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0" ATB
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0" Shaun
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0"
:: > : 0" --
:: > : 0" PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT--not A CONCESSION
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