Thanks steve, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 11:30 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes) : Hi Paul, : : The Plus 1 channels are not described. : : All the best : : Steve : : -- : Computer Room Services : 77 Exeter Close : Stevenage : Hertfordshire : SG1 4PW : Tel: +44(0)1438-742286 : Mob: +44(0)7956-334938 : Fax: +44(0)1438-759589 : Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx : Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk : : -----Original Message----- : From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of : Paul Roberts : Sent: 06 September 2014 23:03 : To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx : Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes) : : THANKS Darren. : : When I last tried ItV plus 1 during corronation street, the aD wasn't : pressent but the menu was deffinately set up as I had been using AD that : week. : : Paul. : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Darran Ross" <darran.ross@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> : Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:39 PM : Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes) : : :: Clive, Paul, all my ITV plus 1 channels do seem to have AD. This is :: definitely the case for ITV 1, 2 and 3, can't be so sure about 4, haven't :: tried that recently! :: :: Oh, and this is both on Freeview and Sky. :: :: Darran :: :: ----- Original Message ----- :: From: "Paul Roberts" <anorack@xxxxxxxxxxxx> :: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> :: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 12:34 AM :: Subject: [access-uk] Re: Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes) :: :: :: > Hi Clive, :: > :: > Would agree about ITV's site, as the play button is in an image and :: > therefore not very user friendly to VI people. :: > :: > It may be better on the Iphone but i've not quite got that far. :: > :: > regarding films, sometimes i've seen a film listed with aD before it and :: > then a year or so later, when the same film is being transmitted, there : is :: > no AD reference. :: > :: > Now, it's possible that the film may have audio description even if the : AD :: > reference wasn't mentioned at the time. :: > :: > I think there are more films with AD than before. :: > :: > tonight and for the third year running, ITV are showing The Boat That :: > Rocked :: > and in all intances, it's had AD listed before it and certainly the last :: > two :: > ocasions, AD was present. Not sure about tonight as I didn't tune in. :: > :: > Yes, rather odd that ITV 1 plus doesn't seem to have the AD facility :: > ,which :: > I'm sure could be easily sorted out. :: > :: > Paul. :: > ----- Original Message ----- :: > From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx> :: > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> :: > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 12:43 PM :: > Subject: [access-uk] Audio Description (was BBC Licence Changes) :: > :: > :: > : Hello all, :: > : :: > : A few weeks ago I looked through the Braille TV guide for one week and :: > noticed that though programmes like soaps have audio description more :: > often :: > than not, AD films were relatively few and far between. :: > : :: > : As far as ITV goes, I think it's a drag that: :: > : :: > : 1. ITV player accessibility still leaves something to be desired, and :: > : 2. Programmes which are audio described at transmission time are never :: > described on ITV plus 1...ulness, of course, you know different. :: > : :: > : Best, :: > : Clive :: > : :: > : :: > : -----Original Message----- :: > : From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On : Behalf :: > Of carol.pearson29@ :: > : Sent: 05 September 2014 12:28 :: > : To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx :: > : Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes? :: > : :: > : ITV are far better than BBC for AD, though of course I can't speak for :: > Sky. :: > : :: > : Carol P :: > : :: > : :: > : ----- Original Message ----- :: > : From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> :: > : To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx :: > : CC: :: > : Date: Friday, 5 September 2014 10.46 am :: > : Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes? :: > : :: > : > :: > : > :: > : > Hi, :: > : > :: > : > There is quite a bit of AD from the BBC. Sky are the best at it :: > though. :: > : > :: > : > All the best :: > : > :: > : > Steve :: > : > -- :: > : > Computer Room Services :: > : > 77 Exeter Close :: > : > Stevenage :: > : > Hertfordshire :: > : > SG1 4PW :: > : > Tel: 644(0(1438-742286 :: > : > Mob: 644(0(7956-334938 :: > : > Fax: 644(0(1438-759589 :: > : > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx :: > : > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk :: > : > :: > : > -----Original Message----- :: > : > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On :: > : > Behalf Of Hazel Darvell :: > : > Sent: 05 September 2014 10.33 :: > : > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx :: > : > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes? :: > : > :: > : > Here's my take on this. :: > : > As we don't have a television it doesn't affect us but radio is :: > : > another matter. :: > : > The radio 4 helpline has been a very useful source of information : for :: > : > many years now but recently I had reason to call them but what a :: > : > complete mess it is now. :: > : > I know for some time it has dropped their 24 hour service and who : can :: > : > blame them for that but now all you get is options to press then :: > : > announcements after that. :: > : > You get no choice at all to speak to someone so really there is no :: > : > helpline now. :: > : > I expect they want everyone to find out from their website, but I :: > : > can't seem to get my head around that site at all. :: > : > :: > : > All in all they don't think of blind people very much as there has :: > : > been subtitles from the word go but as I hear not too much AD. :: > : > Hazel :: > : > On 04/09/2014 15.23, ,c;live.,l;ever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: :: > : > Hi all, :: > : > :: > : > And what about the limitations to access we still face as :: > visually-impaired TV viewers, which means we get less for our money? :: > Consider issues such as: :: > : > :: > : > * that a significant number of BBC TV programmes that require audio :: > : > description don't carry it :: > : > * That the spoken content of too many news items are written to : assume :: > : > site--what does ";This, followed by this, leads to this" mean :: > : > * that opportunities to participate further in some programmes are : not :: > there for us--"Please phone, email or visit our website us now. The :: > details :: > are on your screen.", or the 'pointless' round which lives up to the : name :: > of :: > the programme for us: "Now the picture round. Can you put the names to : the :: > following pictures: A...B...C...D...ENCE"? :: > : > :: > : > In a nutshell, the licence concession is not just about how much : money :: > you have in your pocket. It's also about how much value you get when you :: > shell out that money. Personally, as a blind person, I'd be happy to pay :: > the :: > full licence if I was getting the full service, but, though things are :: > improving, there are too many unnecessary exclusions. Do people think : that :: > it's getting any easier to find out whether the specific programme you :: > want :: > to catch up with is audio-described on IPlayer? :: > : > :: > : > :: > : > I think the BBC are getting there, but they're still on the journey. :: > : > :: > : > Best, :: > : > Clive :: > : > :: > : > :: > : > -----Original Message----- :: > : > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On :: > : > Behalf Of Jonathan H :: > : > Sent: 04 September 2014 15.04 :: > : > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx :: > : > Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes? :: > : > :: > : > Given that there's nothing about this at all anywhere else on : forums, :: > : > newsgroups, twitter, Facebook or indeed any news outlet, mainstream : or :: > : > independent, I'd say your "word of mouth" source is is a position to :: > : > break quite a news story. :: > : > :: > : > Any idea what your source's source is? :: > : > :: > : > On 4 September 2014 14.55, Shaun O'Connor 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