[access-uk] Re: Audio Description on TV
- From: <Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 11:47:58 +0000
Hi Tony,
Yes, it's right to be positive, but always worth challenging where challenge
needs to be made.
George Bernard Shaw once said that reasonable people see the world as it is and
adapt to it. Unreasonable people see the world as it should be and adapt it.
Therefore, it can be argued that all progress depends upon unreasonable people.
Nice one Bernie.
Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tony Sweeney
Sent: 05 September 2014 12:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Audio Description on TV
Hi folk,
I know that the Channel 4 platform are good for AD also.
We're lucky to be able to pick up UK TV here in Ireland (the Roi) and I
compliment all those stations who make such a service available.
Didn't know about Sky AD so well done to them too, nice one.
I suppose that we here having only having one programme audio described
on our national stations probably makes me really appreciate audio
description where ever and whenever we can receive it so let's be
positive about it I say.
Best,
Tony Sweeney
On 05/09/2014 12:27, carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> ITV are far better than BBC for AD, though of course I can't speak for Sky.
>
> Carol P
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> CC:
> Date: Friday, 5 September 2014 10.46 am
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> There is quite a bit of AD from the BBC. Sky are the best at it though.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Hazel Darvell
>> Sent: 05 September 2014 10.33
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
>>
>> Here's my take on this.
>> As we don't have a television it doesn't affect us but radio is another
>> matter.
>> The radio 4 helpline has been a very useful source of information for
>> many years now but recently I had reason to call them but what a
>> complete mess it is now.
>> I know for some time it has dropped their 24 hour service and who can
>> blame them for that but now all you get is options to press then
>> announcements after that.
>> You get no choice at all to speak to someone so really there is no
>> helpline now.
>> I expect they want everyone to find out from their website, but I can't
>> seem to get my head around that site at all.
>>
>> All in all they don't think of blind people very much as there has been
>> subtitles from the word go but as I hear not too much AD.
>> Hazel
>> On 04/09/2014 15.23, ,c;live.,l;ever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> And what about the limitations to access we still face as visually-impaired
>> TV viewers, which means we get less for our money? Consider issues such as:
>>
>> * that a significant number of BBC TV programmes that require audio
>> description don't carry it
>> * That the spoken content of too many news items are written to assume
>> site--what does ";This, followed by this, leads to this" mean
>> * that opportunities to participate further in some programmes are not there
>> for us--"Please phone, email or visit our website us now. The details are on
>> your screen.", or the 'pointless' round which lives up to the name of the
>> programme for us: "Now the picture round. Can you put the names to the
>> following pictures: A...B...C...D...ENCE"?
>>
>> In a nutshell, the licence concession is not just about how much money you
>> have in your pocket. It's also about how much value you get when you shell
>> out that money. Personally, as a blind person, I'd be happy to pay the full
>> licence if I was getting the full service, but, though things are improving,
>> there are too many unnecessary exclusions. Do people think that it's getting
>> any easier to find out whether the specific programme you want to catch up
>> with is audio-described on IPlayer?
>>
>>
>> I think the BBC are getting there, but they're still on the journey.
>>
>> Best,
>> Clive
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>> Jonathan H
>> Sent: 04 September 2014 15.04
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: BBC-Licence changes?
>>
>> Given that there's nothing about this at all anywhere else on forums,
>> newsgroups, twitter, Facebook or indeed any news outlet, mainstream or
>> independent, I'd say your "word of mouth" source is is a position to
>> break quite a news story.
>>
>> Any idea what your source's source is?
>>
>> On 4 September 2014 14.55, Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 0" Hi Folks
> 0"
> 0" Just to give everyone a heads up.) be advised the following is by word of
> 0" mouth at present)
> 0"
> 0" According to rumours currently in circulation the BBC are in the process of
> 0" abandoning the concessionary TV licence for blind and visually impaired
> 0" people and in addition are abandoning the free licence scheme for people
> 0" over the age of 75) or is it 73?)
> 0" Why are they doing this? my guess is as good as yours right now but one
> 0" possibility is that most people have an internet enabled device of one sort
> 0" of other whether it be a computer or mobile phone.
> 0" ALL these devices , under current legislation, require the owner to have a
> 0" valid TV licence as part of the ownership package.
> 0"
> 0" The BBC have reasoned that, if you can afford one of these devices you
> can
> 0" afford a full licence$, they omit conveniently that the changes in
> 0" technology are the primary cause of people migrating to these devices and
> in
> 0" many respects have little or no choice.
> 0"
> 0" IF there is truth in this then this measure should be opposed vigorously, .
> 0" especially taking into account the cost of living and incomes either
> staying
> 0" static over the foreseeable future or even declining.
> 0"
> 0" ATB
> 0"
> 0" Shaun
> 0"
> 0"
> 0"
> 0"
> 0" --
> 0" PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT--not A CONCESSION
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