[access-uk] Re: Apple's Steve Jobs admits 'we are not perfect' - Telegraph

  • From: "JLN&T" <james.austin1984@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:37:57 +0100

Hi Jonathan,

Your comments about the command line are very well made. Most users have no 
idea about the command line and have no desire to learn it. I am quite a 
novice, but so far I have managed to make it do what I want. It is very 
powerful and I am learning very steadily.

Also, your comments about he fanatical attitude of some Apple users is also 
very interesting. This can also be ascribed to Linux and Windows users - 
particularly some Blind Windows user in my opinion. There are plenty of Blind 
people who see Windows and Windows Access Technology - especially JFW as the 
only way for us to use computers. This is very sad, because each of these 
products has their place and folks should use whatever they feel comfortable 
using. 

TC
On 18 Jul 2010, at 16:23, Jonathan wrote:

> Oh dear! What have I started?!
> 
> Personally, I don't think that the iPhone or anything Apple is
> particularly bad in itself.
> 
> I've used an ipod touch and I think it's well made. What bothers me is
> the "fanboy" attitudes of people who think that each and every product
> made by Apple is lovingly hand-crafted out of organic tofu in a
> Starbucks in California, rather than the enormous Chinese sweatshop
> which has been the subject of several news reports of high suicide
> rates and appalling conditions.
> 
> Also, the attitudes on official Apple forums are unbelievable
> sometimes. My partner had problems with Snow Leopard after she
> upgraded and the disk became corrupt in a way that the standard tools
> could not repair, even from the boot disk. The solution from the Apple
> forums? Spend £80 on DiskWarrior. Fortunately, a bit of Googling found
> a simple low-level command line repair which did the job.
> One it was repaired, I noticed the disk was full (it was a rogue log
> file). So I did a find files, and wanted to sort by size. Something
> pretty basic.
> Again, I was told buy a £50 bit of software to enable this most basic
> of functions. Once again, googling showed me a simple command line
> alternative.
> 
> They call it the Apple Tax - add £200 onto a lump of plastic and
> people will buy it. It's like people who buy Evian water. Which is why
> it says naive when you hold it up to a mirror.
> My point being that no-one was really keeping Apple on their toes, and
> at some point that was bound to come back and bite them.
> 
> Anyway, off-topic rant over!
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