Inspiring stuff John, good on you, and thanks for your help with Itunes. Kind Regards, J Jackie Cairns jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of john gallagher Sent: 09 June 2010 10:09 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] hi there yes with ootunes i can hear the cricket on sports extra the sound quality is as good as the ipod nanno when listening to the radio on that device. apple especially with this new upgrade should be congratulated on accessability for us just look at the new phone that is coming out done by microsofft nothing for us blind people at all not access. i have just read this in the pc advisor and pc plus and computer shopper mag. as jackie says you can go in to the apple store either get them to set up voice over for you or take the phone home get on itunes and do it yourself just like that. you do not have the #600 or #700 extra for the screenreader like window eyes and jaws and also you do not have to keep paying out lots of money for the upgrades. just look at the jaws upgrades every time one comes out we have to shell out again. i would love to show other blind people how i manage the iphone. in three months i am truly amazed what i have achieved with it. we have no sight here pat cannot see at all the same as me and i have done all this without any help from anyone else. i still will not be without my talks as i have the best of both worlds so to speak i just wish this iphone if everyone bought an electric piano could tune the damn things via the web there by saving all this travell 1smile, smile 1smile, very interesting though in two weeks to see the new iphone software. i understand the sky app has been updated so you can use it on 3 g. ----- source message ----- from: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> to: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> date: 2010/06/09 08:35:16 subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network News [Lioncourt.com] > > > Hi Steve > > I'm not disputing any of what you say, who would dare? (smile). I'm > just saying I was impressed with what I found on the Iphone in a very > short pl= ay I had with it recently. I don't think I would ever > abandon Talks and Symbian for out and out texting as using a tactile > keypad must be quicker than using a touch screen. But I like the > concept of what Apple is doing= , and I suspect that, whether we like > it or not, more and more phones will = be adopting the touch screen > method. I love Talks to bits, but Nuance is somewhat slow to keep up > with this ridiculous demand for new phones. The= re is nothing quite > like going into a shop and purchasing something right ou= t of the box > that will read some of these applications to you. One of my t= axi > drivers had the cricket on his Iphone in the car one evening when he > took= me home from work. He was listening to it on Five Live Sports > Extra, and th= e quality was more than tolerable. > > Good stuff. > > > Kind Regardsea=20 > =20 > J > =20 > =20 > Jackie Cairns > jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf = Of Steve Nutt > Sent: 09 June 2010 09:18 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility > Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network News [Lioncourt.com] > > Hi Jackie, > > With respect, I can do the same almost at > http://braille.wunderground.com= .. > I can click on each day with my Symbian phone. > > Don't get me wrong, I like some of the iPhone apps, but the weather > apps = are easily do-able with Symbian. I also use an app called S60 > Weather which = is free. > > OK, it is not built in, but just as good. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf = Of Jackie Cairns > Sent: Wednesday 9 June 2010 09:04 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility > Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network News [Lioncourt.com] > > Hi Carol > > I can tell you that the weather program works on the Iphone. Ash at S > an= d S has one, and he let me have a shot of Voiceover on it one day. > I was fascinated with the weather program, and how you could click on > each day = to obtain the forecast. Mind you, it was the first time > I'd had my hands on= a touch screen phone, so my fingers were all > over the place. It would be a steep learning curve for me personally, > but I'd be willing to give it a g= o at some point in the not too > distant futuredd=20 > > > Kind Regardsea=20 > =20 > J > =20 > =20 > Jackie Cairns > jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf = Of Carol Pearson > Sent: 09 June 2010 05:42 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility > Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network News [Lioncourt.com] > > Have you tried the "What's On" prog and/or the local weather and > services= his =20 I'm interested as a sighted friend uses these and I > quite like the idea o= f them. > =20 > -- > Carol > carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a =20 > ---- Original Message ---- > From: John Gallagher > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:20 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New Accessibility > Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network News [Lioncourt.com] =20 > > > hi there I must I acquired my iphone in March and never thought I=20 > >would manage the switch over. > > I still have my nokia e 65 as a stand by on pay as you go but It > >is=20 incredible how cheap the apps are and once you have got over > >the=20 learning curve it is truly amazing. > > I have the iphone 3gs 32 gig with a thirty pound per month with=20 > >vodafone with free internet. > > some of my apps are > > sky mobile tv which costs six pounds per month but I have eight > >sky=20 channels. > > my big worry with the phone is the signal is not as good as it > >shd=20 be in some locations and the battery life goes down if you > >use wiffi=20 or other services. > > I have gps on the phone mainly > > navigon which is useable cost =A360 or there abouts. > > I also love ootunes radio which let's me listen to hundreds of > >radio=20 stations and they are so clear. > > my other moan is lack of being able to listen to local football=20 > >commentary as it uses flash. > > I must say though the signal and battery difficulties have been > >seen=20 to with the new iphone and I understand in two weeks the big > >upgrade=20 to my existing phone is free. > > voice over is great and though some apps are not accessible my > >overall=20 feeling is apple deserves real credit for giving us access. > > whith the new version we have braille displays as well and we mst=20 > >remember we are only at the start with the iphone. > > hth. > > At 15:06 08/06/2010, you wrote: > >for20 > > Can one post a link to a good place for iPhone applications > >please"=20 I'd like to have a look.... > >for20 > >for20 > >for20 > > I must say that this new iPhone sounds good. Problem is I don't l=20 > >touch screen phones but I'm very tempted if I'm honest! > >for20 > >for20 > >for20 > > Amro > >for20 > > ----- Original Message ----- > >for20 > > From: Barry Toner > >for20 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >for20 > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 6:49 AM for20 > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New > >Accessibility=20 > > Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network News [Lioncourt.com] for20 > >for20 Steve, for20 for20 But have the apps I've tried if not more > >than that with talks just won't=20 for20 speak. Voice Over does > >tempt... > >for20 > >for20 > > Barry. > >for20 > >for20 > > -----Original Message----- > >for20 > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Were > > mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20 for20 Steve Nutt > >for20 > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 2:24 PM for20 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >for20 > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New > >Accessibility=20 for20 > > Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network News [Lioncourt.com]=20 > >for20 for20 Hi Chris, for20 for20 But Apple isn't the only game. > >Talks will let you access touch screens, z=20 for20 will Mobile > >Speak. > >for20 > >for20 > > All the best > >for20 > >for20 > > Steve > >for20 > >for20 > > -----Original Message----- > >for20 > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Were > > mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=20 for20 chris > >hallsworth for20 > > Sent: Tuesday 8 June 2010 10:58 > >for20 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >for20 > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Apple Unveils iPhone 4 and New > >Accessibility=20 for20 > > Features-- The Mac-cessibility Network News [Lioncourt.com]=20 > >for20 for20 Brilliant idea. 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