[access-uk] Re: Anyone on this list using a Mac with Tiger?
- From: Joe Paton <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:58:06 +0100
At 12:34 13/09/2005, you wrote:
The biggest problem will be with the lack of useable applications. Office
and ITunes are out for a start. yes it's a Mac and yes it talks - but
that's about it right now.
'm a little late on this, but I find your observations interesting.
Having spent only a little time with a mac, and comeing from os/2 dos and
windows, well there's certainly lots to learn that's for sure. But in a
little while, I have been able to get as much system detail out of
Voiceover as I can on a windows based computer with windows screen reading
alternatives. I suspect there will be areas that VO doesn't go to, where
screen readers with 10 or more years development and growth, will go
boldly. The concepts of VO working with Tiger are new to me. But the
documentation is not bad, could probably do better, but not bad. There is
lots of customization available on Windows screen readers, jfw,
window-eyes, Hal, whatever, which is not available in Vo. But it's a first
effort I believe, and all new products change, and develop for the
better. Look at the mobile phone. You used to have to carry your
batteries arround in a hand-cart pulled behind you, Now, the products have
become more energy efficient, so the hand cart stays in the gariage and you
can fill your pockets with spare batteries. A poor analogy I know, but
it's as good as haveing Tiger analogous to a motor car in april.
I won't want to use office on this system, neither i-tunes. The larger
portion of the market probably will, and to that end, I would venture to
suggest that the VO development team, will work closely with microsoft and
there own in-house i-tumes developers to achieve it.
Here is an idea of the apps a more than competent mac user can access
running Voice OVer. I have extracted this from another of his messages,
the credit goes to saqib shaik.
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* Word process, including reading and writing MSWord files.
* check email including sorting rules, spam filters, etc.
browse the web, though this is slightly cumbersome but
definitley doable.
download files, including resuming unfinished files.
voicechat using Skype or iChat
text chat using AIM, MSN, Yahoo or iCQ.
chat on IRC servers.
use Unix and any terminal application.
listen to audio files and CDs including internet streams.
manage my contacts.
synchronise with a pocket PC device.
burn data CDs and DVDs.
* Use a dictionary, thesaurus and encyclopedia.
* Read PDFs and Postscript files, including secure PDFs I think.
* Remotely access my Mac using SSH (text based).
* Access accessible Java Swing applications.
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The above should give some idea of the current ability, and future
potential of the screen reader developed by Apple. It's a little more
than "yes it's a Mac and yes it talks - but that's about it right now."
If I miss-understood the content of the original message which I am
replying to, then please forgive my stupidity.
Joe Paton.
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