Hi. I still don't see why we need it. Because of excellent screen reader technology, the majority of web sites are now accessible, so I don't feel this is really needed. It could also discourage potential web designers to make their sites accessible, on the basis that "there is a plugin that puts it right, so why should I worry", so I am not really in favour of these kinds of fixes to correct accessibility problems, I would rather try to get it fixed at source. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gaurang Kanvinde Sent: 24 September 2006 18:29 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - AccessibleNews for IE launched! Hello friends! As Graham has rightly said, the AccessibleNews Plug in does actually rearrange the web page. However this is not done merely on the basis of content, but in fact, it is done based on the layout, etc as designed by the author. As you all know, sighted people do not face problems while reading websites even if they are not designed according to Accessibility guidelines. The plug in makes use of this very fact to determine the intended sequence of reading the web page. It then re organises the page, and presents this sequence to the screen reader. The concepts used for achieving this are universal and hence they always work. Thus, the plug in presents the website "correct side up", instead of merely linearising as currently done by screen readers. This significantly improves the usability of the Internet, and makes the Internet simple to use, as it should be! Of course, this is not to say that Accessible Guidelines are redundant. But the Plug in comes to the rescue when such guidelines are not followed, as is the cased with most, if not all, websites. I would recommend you to use the Plug in yourself, and form an opinion based on first hand experience! Regards, Gaurang. ------------------------------ From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Announcement - AccessibleNews for IE launched! Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:07:14 +0100 from looking at the site it seems that the program reorganises information so that what you want is at the top of the page and navigation and stuff is underneath. This technology is often not foolsafe as it's a case of trying to guess which is content and which is not. This can really only be done by analysing code and again we get down to the old issue of how well is the page written? ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq