Hi Andy Partly as a word of caution, and partly because the memory makes me laugh a lot, be careful if you bugger about with the voices on your device. When Martin was new to the Mac and was learning to use his Mac Mini, he tried out some of the other voices besides Alex with hilarious but frustrating consequences. One voice was spoken with every word sounding as though it were laughing, making it almost impossible to understand, and therefore difficult to get it back to Alex. He managed to retrieve Alex in the end, somehow, but it was really funny and annoying at the same time. I wish Alex was on the smaller Apple devices, but I believe it has something to do with memory that he can't be used. Kind regards, Jackie Brown Twitter: @thebrownsplace -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS Sent: 19 June 2013 20:06 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessing apps on the MacBook Ian et al - Made some progress now. On the MacBook [guess some are using the Mac pro instead] As well as using the VO keys in conjunction with some of the function keys, the FN key need to be incorporated too. So, for example, to activate the app chooser, the keystroke is FN/Control/Options and F1 press price. This is also the key combination when using F8 to bring up the VO over menu. I've also been able now to get Alex as my VO voice, but again, I wasn't just presented with Daniel or Alex, but had a whole table of voices to choose from, but most of them [probably all except Daniel and Alex] had to be downloaded. I'm not sure if all these other voices are for free, or paid for - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Macrae <mailto:ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:15 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessing apps on the MacBook Press VO keys plus f1 twice to bring up the app chooser. On 19 Jun 2013, at 14:20, Andy Collins wrote: Hi again - meant to say that I know about using the VO D key combination to get to the dock, but is the dock the only way to quickly get to apps? - Andy On 19 Jun 2013, at 13:55, ANDY COLLINS <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi all - Getting on pretty well, and finding out all sorts of stuff, but still confused about a number of things as yet. I notice that I can use Command tab [like alt tab in Windows] to see what apps are running, but that key combination doesn't let me in to the app to work with it. Anybody tell me how to do this? And also, how to quickly find a list of apps, like with 'all Programmes' in windows? Thanks - Andy ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq