Hi there. Content management and creeation is the same thing. Drupal needs no sighted help. I have been looking at the back end of Drupal which looks highly configurable and interesting. Setting up a website from scratch does potentially look a little more difficult but that could be because the instruction manual is written in an overly geeky way. One thing about open source projects is that the people who create them are often not the world's best writers or communicators. Yes their products work but you may have to jump thru hoops if it wasn't created for the mass market. But not all open source is the same. Any other experiences of Drupal from anyone here? I've also looked at the back end of Joomla today which, on first examination, appears to have some java or jaws accesss issues from teh very off and right throughout the site setup. However, there seem to be many different ways to do things so it may be possible to avoid the inaccessible bits. It just needs some more exploring and I need considerably more time to work it out. Tell us more about the Incomedia system you have found? Is it a downloadable program? Or is it, as per drupal and joomla, a web based content management system? if it is, I'm a little confuse as to how Front Page fits into the picture. Is it a web based hosting service? Is there a demo you can try before you buy? How much? And exactly waht bits can you do yourself? Once setup, would you need sighted sssistance again? Or would you need continued assistance? And finally, what's the best thing about it? And dose it produce accessible websites? ...Damon ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of G. McFarlane Sent: 15 August 2007 18:03 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Web creation packages Hi Damon Further to our communication on websites I've found what I think is fairly good - it works after a fashion with the jaws cursor andwould benefit from a bit of scripting. it's called Incomedia WebsiteX version 5 the full version. It works by means of a Wizzard a nd everything is easy to set up - the structure of web pages, the banners, the theme, etc. Video, audio, flash, text etc. can be added. I set up a basic site with the Jaws cursor and with sighted help got the est of the structure together. It can be edited in the program, although I haven't done this yet. The finished pages can be altered in Front Page. Hope you find this interesting. The ones you suggested seemd more on the content management of the site as opposed to the creation of one. Regards. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Damon <mailto:damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:11 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Web creation packages I too am seeking a solution for this,Gordon. There are few around. In fact we are having to build one from scratch at work. But I want one for home too. QNECMS - quick n easy Content Management System - looks like the best bet. But I haven't used it and feel it may be a little geeky, not as user friendly as it could be. But I've seen plenty of good comments about it round the web from blind people. It's 150 pounds. The other one to look at is open source and entirely free. It's called Drupal. I'm basing this almost entirely on a paper I read that was written by CFIT in Ireland. The author was joshue.oconnor@xxxxxxx and it might be worth your while emailing him for updates. If anyone else has any hot tips though, with plenty of easy accessible modules from the back end, please please post here. Gordon it sounds as if you want it for a business? Paypal seems to have some useful systems here which, if all else fails, could work. ...Damon ----- Original Message ----- From: G. McFarlane <mailto:gmcf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:35 AM Subject: [access-uk] Accessible Web creation packages Hi Can anyone recommend an accessible web creation package, one preferrably with easy modules like blogs, forums and shopping cart which can be slotted together. A wizzard interface giving loads of choices would be great. Any ideas would be gratefully received. Gordon McFarlane -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.