The queue system could be arranged with the old style soft barriers which
extend from hip hight to the floor, with raised speed bump type things every
two meters, which one could stand on. Wheelchairs could ride over these speed
bump type things, and blind people could feel them, and stand on them if
needed. Thoughts?
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Sent: 23 March 2020 12:10
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Social Distance Queueing
I am sorry to try and drag this back on topic as it appears every time I raise
it we veer off onto other issues.
Does anybody have views on arrangements for queueing.
David Griffith
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Weston
Sent: 23 March 2020 11:11
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Social Distance Queueing
good morning this morning my wife and I went for a short walk. My wife is
sighted, but I am deaf/blind, and have a heart condition.
While out a young man walking his dog, came very closed to us, and my wife had
to say to him to keep his distance.
It seems to me that the government has made no provision for people like me,
who are over seventy so we are meant to keep in our homes. I am already very
isserlated as a deaf/blind person, but one needs to get out even for a short
walk.
David
On 23 Mar 2020, at 10:58, <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx> <daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I started this thread because I was seeking urgent feedback for a practical
way to advise the Government/Retail sector on ways of increasing the
accessibility of queueing with the current social distancing arrangements.
This has become even more critical with reports that blind people are now
finding it more difficult to access guiding support. I made some initial
suggestions as to brightly coloured tactile mats in place of painted flor
markers.
Apart from a message supporting this from Jackie the only comments I have
seen so far have been to react negatively to the terminology of "social
distancing".
Whilst I know we are very good, brilliant even, at criticising terminology
in this and other areas I fear it does little for our credibility at the
moment.
Apart from more reflections on language/terminology Does anybody have any
thoughts as to the logistics/ practical mechanics of implementing reasonable
adjustments in social distance queueing arrangements?
David Griffith
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Chrissie Cochrane
Sent: 22 March 2020 11:07
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Social Distance Queueing
Hi Folks
I must admit I hate this term "social distancing." Surely what we should
have is social inclusion and physical distancing.
But just my thought.
Chrissie
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Behalf Of Tony
Sent: 22 March 2020 11:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Social Distance Queueing
Good morning,
I wonderred about all of this a little while back and as many of us
know a number of those stores, many I'd say, are on line nowadays.
A number of stores have dedicated shopping times for elderly and
disabled so that may be an option too for some.
In my country Ireland the police and other bodies are tasked with
assisting folk in need and will shop for them, bringing them to the
chemist, or where necessary too to the hospital, etc.
Perhaps family members could assist too under the present
circumstances, neighbours and friends too.
Keep safe,
Tony Sweeney
On 22/03/2020 10:40, Clive Lever wrote:
I went to our local Tesco Express earlier in the week, and when I
went to ask for sighted help, instead of calling someone across, the
guy behind the desk just barked at me: You need to stand over there by the
wall.
You're in the line of fire. Every three minutes he called over to me
that someone would be over in a minute. It took me between ten and
fifteen minutes to get any assistance, and after all that, all I came
away with was a pack of button mushrooms. I haven't been to a shop on my own
since.
Best,
Clive
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Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2020 8:11 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Social Distance Queueing
Hi David
I came across this twice on Friday when I had to go out for some
items. At the bank, there was something on the floor which marked the
point at which you could not pass. You were encouraged to speak to
the cashier from a distance of a couple of feet which I personally
thought rather daft given any money or cards being handled could be
contaminated anyway. The same scenario was in place in Boots, where
my sister-in-law told me there was a big white X on the floor to
indicate customers could go no closer to the counter.
I appreciate everyone is taking specific measures, but some of it
seems to be rather counter-productive. In both places, however, the
women serving didn't seem to have any issue with me walking up to the counter.
Had I been on my own, I wouldn't have known the floor was marked, and
perhaps a mat of some kind might help?
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Email: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
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<mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of daj.griffith@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: 21 March 2020 17:49
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Accessible Social Distance Queueing
I notice amongst the adaptations that shops are taking in Denmark is
the use of painted red circles on the floor to guide people as to the
distance they should stand from each other and from serving staff.
The idea is good but this particular method has obvious difficulties
for a visually impaired person unable to see these circles. It
occurred to me that in advance of such a system being introduced here
then we should discuss quickly a more accessible option rather than
painting circles on the floor.
My daughter suggested that instead of painted red circles shops
should consider sticking washable rubber mats on the floor at these
spaces so that somebody with a cane has at least a chance of feeling
such a designated queue waiting area.
What do people think?
I am posting this on the Vi Gen Access list as well.
David Griffith
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