Your right, they seem to either not understand what there product is or what JAWS/Supernova/WE are. JT -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of James O'Dell Sent: 02 June 2005 13:25 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Podcaseter Hi This 'accessible' thing irritates me. if anyone heard the May edition of Soundings, you will have heard an item about a new program called 'guide', which basically gives you access to some specially-designed talking applications by pressing numbers on your keyboard to select what you want to do. In that feature they were constantly saying 'our software is accessible'. Their website is at www.verbalise.com, look in the 'downloads' section. I'm not sure I like some of their implications about how easy it is to access the Windows operating system with a conventional screen reader. I know I raised a similar point some time ago relating to Freedom Box, and I now think they've done their bit by explaining exactly what their product can and cannot do, relative to the more established ones, and where it fits in the overall scheme of things. I hope Verbalise will do the same thing. James ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq -- DISCLAIMER: NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any attachment; you are requested to notify the sender immediately of your receipt of the email and then to delete it and any attachments from your system. RNIB endeavours to ensure that emails and any attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses or other contaminants. However, it cannot accept any responsibility for any such which are transmitted. We therefore recommend you scan all attachments. Please note that the statements and views expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RNIB. RNIB Registered Charity Number: 226227 Website: http://www.rnib.org.uk ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq