Yes I know it is Steve, but it's that or nout mate so I just do it. I've used the same version of Rockbox for almost two years. I never update the build files because it works, so I jolly well leave it and voice my files as and when. If only we had something with mass storage that had accessibility without all this messing about (smile). That's why the phones do it for me at the moment because it's much more straightforward. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players Hi Jackie, I agree about the Voicebox program, but you have to run it every time you add another MP3 file to your Iriver. Pretty darned inconvenient that to me anyway <Smile>. All the best Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 29 November 2007 11:55 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players Hi Steve Actually, I have a little program on my PC that voices all the stuff I load onto my Iriver. I just run it and it puts a little file into the folder of the artist I want voiced. This means that it tells me each file by name, not spelled. The program only makes tiny files, so it isn't really eating a lot of space. I do agree though that Rockbox is patchy and a bit slow, but it means I can access the 40GB of hard drive on the Iriver as an intermediate solution. But you're right, you can't beat TALKS, and I'd never ever be without it or the facilities the phone gives me for music and everything else. It's the best invention of this century so far (smile). Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players Hi Jackie, I must admit, I hate Rockbox. It is a kind of half-baked solution. OK, it kind of works, but unless you go to trouble to create voice scripts, it can only spell out file names. I wish someone would put a real TTS into an MP3 player, but I don't think it is going to happen soon. Long live Talks eh? <Smile>. All the best Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 29 November 2007 10:36 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 players Hi Steve I'd recommend an Iriver, if only you could get one. I use Rockbox on that, and find it very accessible with that software, even if it is a bit fiddly to initially get it going. I can't comment on any of the Ipod range as I've never gone down that road. My 8GB N91 does the job brilliantly for most purposes though. I'm sure others will offer their thoughts. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Dryden To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: [access-uk] Accessible MP3 players Hi All, I haven't been round for a while so apologies if this has been discussed in the past. I want to get a new mp3 player which has a fairly sizable hd. Anyone got any suggestions? How do people find the ipods with rockbox? Does the Ipod 80gb classic support rockbox? And does it read out the filenames or just spell them? I believe the classic has support for ID3 tagging, does this work in the same way as say, the mp3 player on the N91 where it will automatically group tracks by album etc. Also, with the Classic, can you just use it like another hard drive and copy your mp3's across, or do you need to use the Itumes software? Many thanks. Steve