So is there an alternative apart from the N91 or BookCourier or something that needs Rockbox? Is BookCourier better than the Milestone for music? Mandy. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 30 March 2007 15:27 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players In short Mandy, no, not if you're primary use for it would be music. You can't store music files on the internal memory which is, in any case, only 32MB I think. I use mine with the daisy add-on mainly for Talking books.=20 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mandy Sent: 30 March 2007 15:10 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players Hi Ian. I'm not very technical so hope I can explain myself properly please bear with me. Am I right in thinking there are six folders and only the last is not named but you can change these by voicing the names? Can you create sub-folders within these: for instance I might want to name one folder "Jamie Cullum" could I then have the albums titled within that folder as I can on the computer or on my Iriver? =20 Does the Milestone Title albums and tracks that you put on? How many albums: say can you put onto the internal memory and what cards can you buy? Do you think it is good as an MP3 player or do you use it for books which I do not use? Are you able to alter much within playback does it sound good and does it play back in stereo? Think that's it for now. In short, would you recommend it solely as an MP3 player? My Iriver works: when it works it is great but it seems to cut out quite regularly I am sure it is because of Rockbox and am unwilling to purchase another player that needs Rockbox. Mandy. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ian Macrae Sent: 30 March 2007 14:25 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players I'm using one. Ask away.=3D20 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mandy Sent: 30 March 2007 14:17 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players Hi All. Is anybody on here using a Milestone 31@ I am thinking of buying one as a backup with my Iriver. I know a bit about it, have seen one and now there's an American review but there are things I would want to ask before purchase. Mandy. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 30 March 2007 08:06 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players Hi Gena, The 6630 plays MP3 files already. You can download players from them such as the Psiloc one http://www.psiloc.com, but they are not very good, and they are mono. The 6630 does however, play MP3's and let you assign them as ringtones. The music player is not very advanced though, not like the newer generation phones, like the N73 and N91 etc.=3D20 All the best -- Computer Room Services: =3D20 the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk =3D20 =3D20 -----Original Message---= -- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce Sent: 29 March 2007 23:20 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players Hi Sorry, haven't read all of these messages. Are you saying that you have =3D3D the 6630? And that you've found some software that enables you to play =3D3D mp3 files? Could you post the details? Cheers Gena Amateur Call: M 0 E B P VOIP / IM: gena1959uk Tel 01772 380039 Mobile: 07876 502276 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =3D3D Of Emma Wright Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 5:43 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players Good news! I decided to try putting audible air on my phone (I actually ended up with audible manager, don't know what the difference is) and once I'd freed up some memory it worked and I can play audible files. My SD card is so small it will only hold 2 hours of audio, but I've just bought a 2GB one from eBay so I'm happy. I also bought a new battery in case mine is faulty and that is why it runs down so quickly. So in a couple of days I'll have a fully functioning accessible audible player. Thanks for all your help. Emma On 29/03/07, Emma Wright <emmajane9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I've asked in a few phone shops today and they have all told me the > N91 is no longer available. They recommend the N73 (which I > don't=3D20= =20 > think works with Talks yet, but I might be wrong) or the Nokia > 6300=3D2= 0 > (which doesn't work with Audible Air, and I'm note sure about Talks). > > Any other recommendations? > > Emma > > On 29/03/07, Dj Paddy <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > My one complaint ont he N91 is resuming or bookmarking. > > > > It doesn't happen. > > > > Sure it'll resume an audible file, sure it'll start the first =3D3D mp3/wma t=3D3D3D hat's > > in the directory/album you last played but it will not resume=20 > > where=3D20=3D > > =3D3D you=3D3D3D left > > off last. > > > > Untill that's sorted imho the N91 is not an mp3 player replacement. > > > > Dj Paddy > > =3D3D3DD4=3D3D3DE0=3D3D3D06 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Emma Wright" <emmajane9@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 7:13 PM > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players > > > > > > I've just realised I have 8 months of an 18 month contract to go, so > > =3D3D I > > don't suppose I'll be changing phones any time soon. A Sim free N91 > > is at least 299 pounds so the Book Courier works out cheaper. I > > =3D3= D would > > prefer it if the BC were smaller though, so perhaps I'll try to hold > > off and see if they change it during the summer. I've sent my Ipod > > off to be looked at and if it isn't too expensive I'll have it fixed > > and make do with that for now. If it can't be fixed I guess I'm > > =3D3= D stuck > > with listening to books on my computer for the time being! > > > > On 28/03/07, Emma Wright <emmajane9@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I've been to the Audible Air website and the N70 isn't listed > > > as=20= > > > =3D3D=3D one > > > of the phones you can download software for. What is the=20 > > > battery=3D20=3D > > > =3D3D lif=3D3D3D e > > > like on the N91? The N70 is awful - or mine is at least. > > > > > > Emma > > > > > > On 28/03/07, Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi Adrian, and everyone else. > > > > > > > > Can I suggest that people refrain from using pound signs on this > > > > =3D3D li=3D3D3D st, > > > > it > > > > doesn't seem to like them. For example, Adrian put the pound=20 > > > > =3D3D=3D sign =3D3D3D in > > > > and it > > > > rendered it as A=3D3D3D3D3, so 55 pounds ended up as > > > > a=3D3D3D3D35= 5. > > > > =3D On=3D20 > > > > =3D3D these l=3D3D3D ists, I > > > > tend > > > > to put 55 pounds, to make it easier for everyone. Longer winded > > > > =3D3D I =3D3D3D know, > > > > but > > > > everyone can read it. > > > > > > > > Just a suggestion, I know George has mentioned this problem > > > > =3D3D= before,=3D3D3D and > > > > it > > > > makes for a confusing read, particularly for new users <Smile>. > > > > > > > > All the best > > > > -- > > > > Computer Room Services: > > > > the long cane for blind computer users. > > > > Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 > > > > International: +44(0)1438 742286, > > > > Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 > > > > mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, > > > > Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site:=20 > > > > http://www.comproom.co.uk > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20= > > > > =3D3D=3D On B=3D3D3D ehalf > > > > Of > > > > Adrian Higginbotham > > > > Sent: 28 March 2007 10:10 > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible MP3 Players > > > > > > > > Emma - the 2nd generation shuffles are much better at=20 > > > > retaining=3D20=3D > > > > =3D3D you=3D3D3D r =3D3D3D3D > > > > place > > > > in audible books than the first gen. Also smaller and=20 > > > > cheaper,=3D20=3D > > > > =3D3D =3D3D3D3D > > > > =3D3D3D3DA355 for the 1gb which is the bottom of the range. =20 > > > > Unlike=3D =3D20 > > > > =3D3D in th=3D3D3D e first > > > > =3D3D3D3D > > > > generation you have to pause it before switching off to > > > > retain=20= > > > > =3D3D=3D your=3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D > > > > place > > > > where as in the order ones you very specificly had to not=20 > > > > pause=3D20=3D > > > > =3D3D in =3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D > > > > order > > > > to have any chance of retaining your place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrian Higginbotham > > > > > > > > > > > > Accessibility content manager > > > > > > > > British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA > > > > Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994. > > > > > > > > Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ > > > > BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 =3D3D 7JJ=3D3D3D3D20 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20= > > > > =3D3D=3D On B=3D3D3D ehalf > > > > =3D3D3D3D > > > > Of Emma Wright > > > > Sent: 27 March 2007 16:06 > > > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [access-uk] Accessible MP3 Players > > > > > > > > Having read Brain Hartgen's page, I believe I am right in saying > > > > =3D3D th=3D3D3D at =3D3D3D3D > > > > the > > > > Milestone won't play audible books. (If any one wants to correct > > > > =3D3D me=3D3D3D =3D3D3D3D > > > > and > > > > make me very happy then please do!) In that case, I'm =3D3D interested i=3D3D3D n =3D3D3D3D > > > > buying either a BookCourier or a BookPort, but would really like > > > > =3D3D to=3D3D3D see > > > > =3D3D3D3D > > > > them both and have a play with them before I commit more than=20 > > > > =3D3D=3D =3D3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D A3200. > > > > =3D3D3D3D > > > > Does anyone know of a company that will let you return products? > > > > =3D3D R=3D3D3D NIB =3D3D3D3D > > > > do, > > > > but they don't seem to sell either product. > > > > I've read loads of reviews but there is really no substitute to > > > > =3D3D ha=3D3D3D ving > > > > =3D3D3D3D > > > > them in your hand! I've booked myself a place at Sight=20 > > > > Village=3D20=3D > > > > =3D3D so =3D3D3D may =3D3D3D3D > > > > be > > > > able to view them in July, but my Ipod nano (the ultimate in > > > > =3D3= D =3D3D3D3D > > > > inaccessibility, and rockbox won't play audible books!) has just > > > > =3D3D pa=3D3D3D cked > > > > =3D3D3D3D up > > > > and I really could do with something before that. > > > > > > > > Emma > > > > > > > > --=3D3D3D3D3D20 > > > > Emma Jane Wright > > > > School of Sociology and Social Policy University of Nottingham > > > > > > > > emmajane9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > www.accessingmaterials.org.uk > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > > > ** =3D3D [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3D3D3D3D3Dunsubscribe] > > > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ** and in the Subject line type > > > > ** unsubscribe > > > > ** For other list commands such as 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