[access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
- From: "Andrew Ireland" <a.emaillists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:36:34 -0000
Hi Jackie,
Another friend of mine signed up to Sky ADSL before Xmas, and he told them
he didn't want them to supply a router as he had his own. They sent him a
letter with the log on information. He is successfully using the ADSL
service with his router.
All the best
--
Andrew
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jackie Cairns
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:04 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
Andrew, Sky have configured their modems so you can't do much. That's why,
if your modem goes down like our one did the other week when the power
supply died, we couldn't just use another one. They put everything in it
before they send out the unit, and all you have to do is put in the security
key when you get it. That is the big disadvantage of having Sky, because
it's a combined modem/router and you have no room for manoeuvre. We are
also contracted with our broadband from Sky until June, which is why I am
looking around meantime. Even though we've been Sky subscribers to the TV
package for years and aren't contracted to that, we still are to the
broadband service.
Jackie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Ireland" <a.emaillists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:13 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
> Hi Jackie,
>
> Changing stuff in a Sky Router isn't so easy. Just had a look at my mates
> netgear wireless router supplied by Sky. They must have custom firmware
> installed, as half the options to change things are missing!
>
> I suppose downloading the latest firmware for the router would resolve the
> problem.
>
> All the best
>
> --
> Andrew
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Jackie Cairns
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:17 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
>
> Oh here Steve you are talking the Dutch, or double Dutch, I am listening
> to
> on the Internet. I'll bet you are right, but I don't know how to
> re-configure the modem. We can definitely access the web-based page you
> can
>
> log into that lets us access the modem settings, but unless you understand
> what it all means, pass pass pass!! (big smile).
>
> My son definitely does his crust at the high Ping rate he gets when
> playing
> an online match with his friends. He talks about a lag and I won't repeat
> what he calls Sky Broadband either (lol).
>
> As a guideline, Ian put the same Internet radio station on the PC that we
> were listening to on the radio. He was well over half a song ahead on the
> PC, with no drop-out or jumping. I wouldn't have cared about the
> broadcast
> being behind ordinarily because if we'd been listening to it on the
> Internet
>
> radio alone, we wouldn't have known. But it's the drop-out and jumping
> like
>
> an old vinyl record that really made us say there was something wrong, and
> both radios did it so that kind of ruled them out.
>
> Oh well (sigh). Buy one and get it going, I know you would too.
>
> Jackie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:54 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
>
>
>> Hi Jackie,
>>
>> I am not so sure it is different. If the ping rate is low on games, it
>> sounds like you are losing data packets. My bet is a problem with the
>> router configuration. Could be anything like MTU (Maximum Transmittion
>> Units) setting on the router, or anything like that. I am not so sure it
>> is
>> the radio at all, especially as your PC can buffer a lot better.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 16 January 2008 20:18
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
>>
>> Hi Steve
>>
>> Ian has scanned the destructions of the Bush, and there appears to be
>> nothing in the manual about connecting via a PC, nor suggestions in the
>> trouble-shooting section for any such problems we are experiencing.
>>
>> I really don't want to give up with this radio thing because I'm getting
>> sound out of it, though I preferred the Intempo to the Bush. But I can't
>> have it keep cutting out and jumping about like a scratched record. The
>> longer it is on, the more it does it, which is why I didn't notice it for
>> a
>> little while yesterday. Everything else on our network is working ok,
>> apart
>> from young Ian's Ping when he plays Counter Strike online, but that's a
>> different issue relating to the gaming server he is using I think.
>>
>> Hmmm. Will have to keep plodding away and see what I can come up with.
>> This getting older stuff is a bad thing (smile).
>>
>> Jackie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:08 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jackie,
>>>
>>> Are you sure these radios don't have a browser interface from a PC?
>>> They
>>> will have an IP address, so you might be able to log into them as you
>>> can
>>> with a router. You may be able for example, to plug in your radio using
>>> an
>>> RJ45, configure it, then unplug it. I am certain it will have an IP
>>> address, as all networking devices do have, but do they have a web-based
>>> interface? Check out the instruction bookie with young Ian, and you may
>>> find you can configure using a PC.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Jackie Cairns
>>> Sent: 16 January 2008 17:46
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible Internet Radio
>>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Right, here is the latest on the accessibility of Internet radio. I've
>>> been
>>> messing around for over a day and have come up against some problems
>>> that
>>> I'll share with you now so you know the score.
>>>
>>> Firstly, we picked the Intempo Internet radio from Argos at £119.99. As
>>> it
>>> happened, it was one of the only choices of five they had in stock, but
>>> it
>>> was my first pick anyway.
>>>
>>> The Intempo came with wireless capability, and an ethernet port. More
>>> importantly, it had 99 presets and a remote control to allow you to key
>>> in
>>> those presets directly. When Ian turned it on, he told us that the
>>> display
>>> came up with the welcome logo, and then found the network. Of course it
>>> came up with Sky, and asked for our security key. Now in answer to
>>> Marie's
>>> question, you have to use the dial to spin it round for each letter or
>>> number you want to key in, then select it. This is totally useless for
>>> us
>>> by the way.
>>>
>>> Once it accepted the security key and proceeded to log onto our network,
>>> it
>>> asked whether we wanted Windows Media Player or stations. We selected
>>> the
>>> latter. Then it wanted to know if we wanted genre or locations, and we
>>> again chose the latter. There was a massive list of countries, with
>>> Afghanistan at the top of the alphabetical list. Ian chose the
>>> Netherlands,
>>> and found Sky Radio, which came on after a few minutes of waiting. If
>>> you
>>> turned off the radio and turned it back on again, it defaulted to the
>>> last
>>> station we were listening to, so that was helpful.
>>>
>>> But after initially listening to the station, we started to notice it
>>> cutting off altogether for maybe 30 seconds or so, then coming back on.
>>> Then whatever was playing began to jump like the arm on a record being
>>> moved
>>> over it at random.
>>>
>>> Senior Ian checked that this was not happening on Sky Radio using the
>>> Internet on the PC, and it stayed completely steady. So we tried the
>>> radio
>>> directly using the RJ45, and got the same results. We turned all the
>>> PCs
>>> off and just had the radio running, with the same outcome.
>>>
>>> We decided today that we would have to try another radio in case the
>>> Intempo
>>> had a fault. We knew it couldn't be our connection to the Internet
>>> because
>>> everything else has been working normally. So the only other radio
>>> Argos
>>> had was a Bush at £89.99. They couldn't give us another Intempo as it
>>> was
>>> the only one they had, but were happy about refunding us our money.
>>>
>>> When we brought the Bush home and Ian went through the same procedure,
>>> the
>>> exact same thing started to occur. This radio has 10 presets and is
>>> wireless only.
>>>
>>> So now we have a dilemma. For some unknown reason, both radios, bearing
>>> in
>>> mind they are different models altogether, do the same thing when they
>>> are
>>> connected to a radio station, whatever that station happens to be. We
>>> tried
>>> Capital FM and the BBC, but it still did the same with both sets.
>>>
>>> I have to be honest and say that these radios are completely
>>> inaccessible
>>> for a non-sighted person to navigate. Even if you remember that the
>>> radio
>>> asks you for genre or locations, and you manage to remember how many
>>> times
>>> to go up and down the massive list in each category, you are on a hiding
>>> to
>>> nothing because you don't know any of the stations available. We knew
>>> this
>>> when we started out, so aren't so much frustrated about that. What we
>>> had
>>> planned to do is pick a few of our favourites and store them into the
>>> presets. But if the radios don't have fast enough processors, and keep
>>> dropping out or jumping, I don't know what the pleasure is in all
>>> honesty.
>>>
>>> Carol asked why it would not be simpler to just use a PC. I just wanted
>>> an
>>> Internet radio to be able to move it anywhere away from the computer
>>> without
>>> having it switched on all the time. For example, lying in bed and
>>> listening
>>> to something without being tied to a laptop would have been nice.
>>>
>>> Now guys, the positive thing is that I am currently talking to TNAUK
>>> about
>>> their talking Internet radio. I can't say anything else at the moment,
>>> but
>>> I'm in the process of bending their ear and arm (smile). When I know
>>> more,
>>> I'll certainly post it because I've no intention of being involved in
>>> any
>>> trial and then not compiling some sort of evaluation review that be for
>>> all
>>> to read.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any ideas why these radios do this, I would be fascinated
>>> to
>>> know. I wonder if the processors aren't as fast, so therefore have
>>> smaller
>>> memory buffers. But how they sell on that basis, I don't know.
>>>
>>> Any comments welcome, on or off list.
>>>
>>> Jackie
>>>
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