Thanks. Yes I understand this. What I don't see is why, once Windows is running, it should not be possible to reset BIOS setting from Windows which would then remain set for the next reboot. I am particularly thinking of setting which drive to boot from. Graham -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 22 September 2009 18:05 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to BIOS Hi Graham. For what its worth, here is my opinion on why a bios access method hasn't yet been implemented for windows. The simple fact is that as the bios mostly controls hardware functions like plug and play, boot priority, hardware devices and so on, this is all information on which windows relies when it loads. You see, the bios not windows is responsible for letting windows know about all the hardware that's connected to your computer. Windows merely identifies and installs the correct drivers. To give an example, if I were to disable the internal touchpad in my laptop using the bios function, windows would not see the touchpad as being a present device, so to all intents and purposes, it won't exist. Also, if access to the bios were allowed through windows and you made significant hardware changes, windows might crash or respond in unpredictable ways because the hardware profile and therefore resources will have been changed. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Lewis [gjl]" <gjl@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to BIOS > Thanks Ibrahim, Much as I thought things were. I jusr hoped there was a > work-around that somebody had come up with. > > I will have a go at pointing my CCTV at it. I still have a little vision. > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu > Sent: 22 September 2009 14:25 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Access to BIOS > > Hi Graham. > > Most laptops and desktops only allow you to access bios settings at system > boot-up, usually by pressing F2, F10 or the delete key. These are > inaccessible because windows is not loading at this stage, thus no speech. > The only bios's setup routines that I've seen are relatively though not > completely accessible are Compaq and Toshiba. Both models of machines > have > system diagnostics utilities which include tools to make adjustments in > the > bios, however the level of the adjustments you can make will differ > between > the utilities in windows and the start-up routine. > > All the best, Ibrahim. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Graham Lewis [gjl]" <gjl@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:10 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Access to BIOS > > >> Does anybody know if there is a way to access the BIOS setting as a blind >> user? 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