[access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE

  • From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:23:27 -0000

Powerpoint is perfectly good enough with JAWS when it comes to reading presentations. I can imagine creating them might be confusing because of the visual nature of slides but still pretty good. 


peter

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From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:06 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE


It's OK too with Supernova and I expect Jaws.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE



Hi Saqib,

To say Powerpoint is not accessible is incorrect. It is with Window-Eyes,
but not too good with System Access.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Saqib
Sent: Wednesday 25 November 2009 14:44
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
------------------------------------------Hi sometimes you just have to use 
presentations out of choice. If your work place or your course demands it
then you have to just learn to get on with it. I had to carry out a
presentation in Powerpoint and it is not very accessible. I had to make the 
most of my residual vision to crack on with the task by using the System
Access magnifier which only helped in a minor capacity. You can't always be 
excused from using a presentation related program for the above reasons.
<eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:48 PM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE


Fair enough Steve but I was a bit taken aback to find it was a
presentation that was pretty meaningless to me as a visually impaired
person.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:42 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE



Eleanor,
I haven't downloaded the presentation myself, so I wasn't aware of this. 
His CSUN talk was about a wide variety of disabled people who've found
Second Life worthwhile; I assumed what was on his website would have
been a recording of the Techshare talk rather than just the visual
information.

Steve

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Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 24 November 2009 19:49
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE

I downloaded the presentation out of interest but I was appauled as it
meant very little to me as a visually impaired screen reader.  I must
have downloaded thw wrong thing!!!  The presentation in full screen pdf
format.

Eleanor
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Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:15 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE



Probably Kel Smith of Anikto; his presentation at CSUN the best thing
there, and it looks like he's updated it to take the virtual guidedog
project into account. His Techshare presentation is available from
download from http://bit.ly/rnib09.

Steve

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Of Adrian Higginbotham
Sent: 24 November 2009 15:40
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE

There was something at techshare this year about a virtual guidedog on
secondlife that could act as your online guide basicly an assistant to
give you contextual information about your surroundings.  As damon

says

all very unrewarding but possibly important as more and more service

are

experimenting with virtual worlds by holding events or launches of
reports and services in world.


Adrian Higginbotham
Manager, leading edge research.
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-----Original Message-----
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Of Damon Rose
Sent: 24 November 2009 14:52
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE

Way too visual I think. About as interesting as trying to paint if you
can't see. Read an article this week about how Second Life is on the
wain.




-----Original Message-----
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Of Griffiths, Steve
Sent: 23 November 2009 08:46
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE

At CSUN 2009 I went to a demonstration of using Second Life with a
screen reader. It was messy, but the project was in its early stages.

It

was run on Macs and used a screen reader called Max Voice Plus written
by Charles Mountain (charles.mountain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) which
allows you to issue command line instructions to get your avatar to
perform actions, for instance the command "/11 door" would open a

door.

At the time a beta of Max Voice Plus was available from
http://www.virtualguidedog.org/tools/. I haven't followed this up, so
can tell you no more I'm afraid.

Steve

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Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: 22 November 2009 17:35
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE


I tried using it with JAWS a year ago and it isn't accessible in the
slightest. I did find a second life client which made it partly
accessible but found that it was quite complicated and wasn't
particularly interesting, entertaining or useful. In other words a

waste

of time. Sorry as can't remember what the client was called.

Peter

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From: "Kevin Morris" <drewdog2060@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:50 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE


I've just signed up for a free account with Second Life and would be
interested to know of any access technology users who are using the

site.

In particular any tips on using it would Jaws would be appreciated.
I'm using Jaws 10 and Windows Vista Home Premiunm.

Thanks,

Kevin
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