Hi Saqib, To say Powerpoint is not accessible is incorrect. It is with Window-Eyes, but not too good with System Access. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Saqib Sent: Wednesday 25 November 2009 14:44 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE ------------------------------------------Hi sometimes you just have to use presentations out of choice. If your work place or your course demands it then you have to just learn to get on with it. I had to carry out a presentation in Powerpoint and it is not very accessible. I had to make the most of my residual vision to crack on with the task by using the System Access magnifier which only helped in a minor capacity. You can't always be excused from using a presentation related program for the above reasons. <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:48 PM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE > Fair enough Steve but I was a bit taken aback to find it was a > presentation that was pretty meaningless to me as a visually impaired > person. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:42 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE > > >> Eleanor, >> >> I haven't downloaded the presentation myself, so I wasn't aware of this. >> His CSUN talk was about a wide variety of disabled people who've found >> Second Life worthwhile; I assumed what was on his website would have >> been a recording of the Techshare talk rather than just the visual >> information. >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of Eleanor Burke >> Sent: 24 November 2009 19:49 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >> >> I downloaded the presentation out of interest but I was appauled as it >> meant very little to me as a visually impaired screen reader. I must >> have downloaded thw wrong thing!!! The presentation in full screen pdf >> format. >> >> Eleanor >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:15 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >> >> >>> Probably Kel Smith of Anikto; his presentation at CSUN the best thing >>> there, and it looks like he's updated it to take the virtual guidedog >>> project into account. His Techshare presentation is available from >>> download from http://bit.ly/rnib09. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf >>> Of Adrian Higginbotham >>> Sent: 24 November 2009 15:40 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>> >>> There was something at techshare this year about a virtual guidedog on >>> secondlife that could act as your online guide basicly an assistant to >>> give you contextual information about your surroundings. As damon >> says >>> all very unrewarding but possibly important as more and more service >> are >>> experimenting with virtual worlds by holding events or launches of >>> reports and services in world. >>> >>> >>> Adrian Higginbotham >>> Manager, leading edge research. >>> DD: 02476797333 >>> E: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> W: www.Becta.org.uk >>> A: Becta, Millburnhill Road, Science park, Coventry CV4 7JJ. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf >>> Of Damon Rose >>> Sent: 24 November 2009 14:52 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>> >>> Way too visual I think. About as interesting as trying to paint if you >>> can't see. Read an article this week about how Second Life is on the >>> wain. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf >>> Of Griffiths, Steve >>> Sent: 23 November 2009 08:46 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>> >>> At CSUN 2009 I went to a demonstration of using Second Life with a >>> screen reader. It was messy, but the project was in its early stages. >> It >>> was run on Macs and used a screen reader called Max Voice Plus written >>> by Charles Mountain (charles.mountain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) which >>> allows you to issue command line instructions to get your avatar to >>> perform actions, for instance the command "/11 door" would open a >> door. >>> At the time a beta of Max Voice Plus was available from >>> http://www.virtualguidedog.org/tools/. I haven't followed this up, so >>> can tell you no more I'm afraid. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf >>> Of Peter Holdstock >>> Sent: 22 November 2009 17:35 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>> >>> >>> I tried using it with JAWS a year ago and it isn't accessible in the >>> slightest. I did find a second life client which made it partly >>> accessible but found that it was quite complicated and wasn't >>> particularly interesting, entertaining or useful. In other words a >> waste >>> of time. Sorry as can't remember what the client was called. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Kevin Morris" <drewdog2060@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:50 PM >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: [access-uk] ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>> >>>> I've just signed up for a free account with Second Life and would be >>>> interested to know of any access technology users who are using the >>> site. >>>> In particular any tips on using it would Jaws would be appreciated. >>>> I'm using Jaws 10 and Windows Vista Home Premiunm. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>> >>>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >>> >>> To report this e-mail as Spam, please forward it to: >>> spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> -- >>> DISCLAIMER: >>> >>> NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is >>> confidential and may be privileged. 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