[access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE

  • From: Gordon Keen <gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:45:34 +0000

Yeah, right!

It's the first life that needs to be made accessible.

Regards

G

From glorious Devon, England.
On 25 Nov 2009, at 14:44, Saqib wrote:

> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------Hi sometimes you just have to use 
> presentations out of choice. If your work place or your course demands it 
> then you have to just learn to get on with it. I had to carry out a 
> presentation in Powerpoint and it is not very accessible. I had to make the 
> most of my residual vision to crack on with the task by using the System 
> Access magnifier which only helped in a minor capacity. You can't always be 
> excused from using a presentation related program for the above reasons. 
> <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:48 PM
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
> 
>> Fair enough Steve but I was a bit taken aback to find it was a presentation 
>> that was pretty meaningless to me as a visually impaired person.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Griffiths, Steve" 
>> <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:42 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>> 
>> 
>>> Eleanor,
>>> 
>>> I haven't downloaded the presentation myself, so I wasn't aware of this.
>>> His CSUN talk was about a wide variety of disabled people who've found
>>> Second Life worthwhile; I assumed what was on his website would have
>>> been a recording of the Techshare talk rather than just the visual
>>> information.
>>> 
>>> Steve
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> Of Eleanor Burke
>>> Sent: 24 November 2009 19:49
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>> 
>>> I downloaded the presentation out of interest but I was appauled as it
>>> meant very little to me as a visually impaired screen reader.  I must
>>> have downloaded thw wrong thing!!!  The presentation in full screen pdf
>>> format.
>>> 
>>> Eleanor
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:15 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Probably Kel Smith of Anikto; his presentation at CSUN the best thing
>>>> there, and it looks like he's updated it to take the virtual guidedog
>>>> project into account. His Techshare presentation is available from
>>>> download from http://bit.ly/rnib09.
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Adrian Higginbotham
>>>> Sent: 24 November 2009 15:40
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>> 
>>>> There was something at techshare this year about a virtual guidedog on
>>>> secondlife that could act as your online guide basicly an assistant to
>>>> give you contextual information about your surroundings.  As damon
>>> says
>>>> all very unrewarding but possibly important as more and more service
>>> are
>>>> experimenting with virtual worlds by holding events or launches of
>>>> reports and services in world.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Adrian Higginbotham
>>>> Manager, leading edge research.
>>>> DD: 02476797333
>>>> E: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> W: www.Becta.org.uk
>>>> A: Becta, Millburnhill Road, Science park, Coventry CV4 7JJ.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Damon Rose
>>>> Sent: 24 November 2009 14:52
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>> 
>>>> Way too visual I think. About as interesting as trying to paint if you
>>>> can't see. Read an article this week about how Second Life is on the
>>>> wain.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Griffiths, Steve
>>>> Sent: 23 November 2009 08:46
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>> 
>>>> At CSUN 2009 I went to a demonstration of using Second Life with a
>>>> screen reader. It was messy, but the project was in its early stages.
>>> It
>>>> was run on Macs and used a screen reader called Max Voice Plus written
>>>> by Charles Mountain (charles.mountain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) which
>>>> allows you to issue command line instructions to get your avatar to
>>>> perform actions, for instance the command "/11 door" would open a
>>> door.
>>>> At the time a beta of Max Voice Plus was available from
>>>> http://www.virtualguidedog.org/tools/. I haven't followed this up, so
>>>> can tell you no more I'm afraid.
>>>> 
>>>> Steve
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Peter Holdstock
>>>> Sent: 22 November 2009 17:35
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I tried using it with JAWS a year ago and it isn't accessible in the
>>>> slightest. I did find a second life client which made it partly
>>>> accessible but found that it was quite complicated and wasn't
>>>> particularly interesting, entertaining or useful. In other words a
>>> waste
>>>> of time. Sorry as can't remember what the client was called.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Kevin Morris" <drewdog2060@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:50 PM
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>> 
>>>>> I've just signed up for a free account with Second Life and would be
>>>>> interested to know of any access technology users who are using the
>>>> site.
>>>>> In particular any tips on using it would Jaws would be appreciated.
>>>>> I'm using Jaws 10 and Windows Vista Home Premiunm.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kevin
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