Yeah, right! It's the first life that needs to be made accessible. Regards G From glorious Devon, England. On 25 Nov 2009, at 14:44, Saqib wrote: > > > ------------------------------------------Hi sometimes you just have to use > presentations out of choice. If your work place or your course demands it > then you have to just learn to get on with it. I had to carry out a > presentation in Powerpoint and it is not very accessible. I had to make the > most of my residual vision to crack on with the task by using the System > Access magnifier which only helped in a minor capacity. You can't always be > excused from using a presentation related program for the above reasons. > <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:48 PM > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE > >> Fair enough Steve but I was a bit taken aback to find it was a presentation >> that was pretty meaningless to me as a visually impaired person. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Griffiths, Steve" >> <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:42 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >> >> >>> Eleanor, >>> >>> I haven't downloaded the presentation myself, so I wasn't aware of this. >>> His CSUN talk was about a wide variety of disabled people who've found >>> Second Life worthwhile; I assumed what was on his website would have >>> been a recording of the Techshare talk rather than just the visual >>> information. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>> Of Eleanor Burke >>> Sent: 24 November 2009 19:49 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>> >>> I downloaded the presentation out of interest but I was appauled as it >>> meant very little to me as a visually impaired screen reader. I must >>> have downloaded thw wrong thing!!! The presentation in full screen pdf >>> format. >>> >>> Eleanor >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:15 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>> >>> >>>> Probably Kel Smith of Anikto; his presentation at CSUN the best thing >>>> there, and it looks like he's updated it to take the virtual guidedog >>>> project into account. His Techshare presentation is available from >>>> download from http://bit.ly/rnib09. >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf >>>> Of Adrian Higginbotham >>>> Sent: 24 November 2009 15:40 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>>> >>>> There was something at techshare this year about a virtual guidedog on >>>> secondlife that could act as your online guide basicly an assistant to >>>> give you contextual information about your surroundings. As damon >>> says >>>> all very unrewarding but possibly important as more and more service >>> are >>>> experimenting with virtual worlds by holding events or launches of >>>> reports and services in world. >>>> >>>> >>>> Adrian Higginbotham >>>> Manager, leading edge research. >>>> DD: 02476797333 >>>> E: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> W: www.Becta.org.uk >>>> A: Becta, Millburnhill Road, Science park, Coventry CV4 7JJ. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf >>>> Of Damon Rose >>>> Sent: 24 November 2009 14:52 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>>> >>>> Way too visual I think. About as interesting as trying to paint if you >>>> can't see. Read an article this week about how Second Life is on the >>>> wain. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf >>>> Of Griffiths, Steve >>>> Sent: 23 November 2009 08:46 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>>> >>>> At CSUN 2009 I went to a demonstration of using Second Life with a >>>> screen reader. It was messy, but the project was in its early stages. >>> It >>>> was run on Macs and used a screen reader called Max Voice Plus written >>>> by Charles Mountain (charles.mountain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) which >>>> allows you to issue command line instructions to get your avatar to >>>> perform actions, for instance the command "/11 door" would open a >>> door. >>>> At the time a beta of Max Voice Plus was available from >>>> http://www.virtualguidedog.org/tools/. I haven't followed this up, so >>>> can tell you no more I'm afraid. >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>> Behalf >>>> Of Peter Holdstock >>>> Sent: 22 November 2009 17:35 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>>> >>>> >>>> I tried using it with JAWS a year ago and it isn't accessible in the >>>> slightest. I did find a second life client which made it partly >>>> accessible but found that it was quite complicated and wasn't >>>> particularly interesting, entertaining or useful. In other words a >>> waste >>>> of time. Sorry as can't remember what the client was called. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Kevin Morris" <drewdog2060@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:50 PM >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE >>>> >>>>> I've just signed up for a free account with Second Life and would be >>>>> interested to know of any access technology users who are using the >>>> site. >>>>> In particular any tips on using it would Jaws would be appreciated. >>>>> I'm using Jaws 10 and Windows Vista Home Premiunm. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>> ** or send a message, to >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To report this e-mail as Spam, please forward it to: >>>> spam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> DISCLAIMER: >>>> >>>> NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is >>>> confidential and may be privileged. 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