[access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square brackets

  • From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:21:08 +0100

If it had been in the sighted world, the Perkins Brailler would be deemed a 
design classic. Mine is still going strong after 38 years.

Iain
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:54 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square brackets


Hi Ray

I've seen these square brackets, of course, but didn't know they were titled
square brackets, if you get my drift.

For the practice papers and exam, you have three papers to do, a
comprehension, a transcription from print to Braille, and a spontaneous
piece of writing.  You have to pass at least two sets of the three practice
papers in order to sit the final exam.  So far, it's going well, but I want
to get it all as right as I possibly can for my own interest and
achievement.  When it comes to the transcription from print to Braille, I do
that with audio.  I'm still using my Perkins Brailler of 40 years ago, and
wouldn't have it any other way. (smile.)

Oh well, on we go then!

Jackie

Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square brackets


> Yes, well if you're doing Braille transcription at this level then there
> are going to be customers to whom it matters.
>
> I recall now that when I was studying and reading quite a lot, some
> quoteations in the text often had these square brackets with dots
> between them.  Other than indicating that something had been ommited or
> edited out of the text, i never did know whether the presence of square
> brackets had some deeper significance.
>
> Cheers,
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Jackie Cairns
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square
> brackets
>
>
> Hi Ray
>
> I don't doubt it at all mate.  I was just confused by which was which.
> You
> get penalised which is important in the context of the final exam.
>
> Jackie
>
> Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
> Skype Name: Cairnsplace
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:42 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square
> brackets
>
>
>> Jackie, this mightn't add much of great use to the discussion, but
> round
>> and square brackets are certainly idfferent things in the visual
> world,
>> and not just in appearance.  They're used to denote certain states or
>> conditions in mathematical formulae and I think programming too.  I'll
>> leave someone who knows what's what to explain what the difference is,
>> but the distinction is made for a purpose.
>>
>> From Ray
>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> Jackie Cairns
>> Subject: [access-uk] A Braille question about round and square
> brackets
>>
>>
>> Re-posting this as it bounced back with a permanent administration
>> failure message for some strange reason!
>>
>> Hi George
>>
>> Thanks for clarifying the distinction between round and square, which
> is
>> now clear.  But without being pedantic, since this is very important
> in
>> the context of the exam and practice papers I'm doing, you use dot 6
> and
>> lower G to open a square, and lower G followed by dot 3 to close, not
>> dot 6 as you said.  At least this is the info the Primer gives.  What
>> wasn't clear to me was the distinction between round and square
>> brackets.  Personally, a bracket is a bracket to me, but not so in
>> modern Braille. (smile.)
>>
>> Cheers mate.
>>
>> Jackie
>>
>> Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
>> Skype Name: Cairnsplace
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: George Bell
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:05 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square
>> brackets
>>
>>
>> Hi Jackie,
>>
>> Left Square Bracket = Dot 6 lower g
>> Right Square Bracket = Lower G dot 6.
>>
>> Normal (Round) brackets = lower g either side.
>>
>> George.
>>
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
>> Of Jackie Cairns
>> Sent: 18 April 2008 16:51
>> To: Access UK Mailing List
>> Subject: [access-uk] A Braille question about round and square
> brackets
>>
>> Hi Listers
>>
>> Could someone with a good working knowledge of modern Braille please
>> tell me what the difference is between round and square brackets?  I
>> know it is the lower G, or dots 2 3 5 6.  But, these days, there is
> the
>> infuriating necessity to have to use a dot 6 before the open bracket,
>> then the dot 3 at the end of the bracket.  But do you use these
>> additional dot 6 and dot 3 distinctions for round or square brackets?
>> The Primer I have doesn't exactly make some things crystal clear.
>>
>> I'm doing the BTEC Advanced certificate in grade 2 English Braille,
> and
>> just need to clarify this for myself as I'm a bit confused to be
> honest.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jackie
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