[access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square brackets
- From: orhan deniz <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:58:48 +0100
I strongly agree.
orhan.
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From: Dave Taylor
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:08 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square
brackets
Oh yes, well there you go, ultimate proof we need UEB! In print, they use
the same symbols all the time, but in braille we don't, and that really
doesn't help people learn these things does it! Now some braille reader
will
tell me there's no need to know the difference, but I can't agree with
that,
and think one symbol should mean the same thing, so in UEB, all brackets
are
based around GH sign to open and AR sign to close, with different
preceeding
dots for different shapes.
Cheers
Dave
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From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:42 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square
brackets
Jackie, this mightn't add much of great use to the discussion, but round
and square brackets are certainly idfferent things in the visual world,
and not just in appearance. They're used to denote certain states or
conditions in mathematical formulae and I think programming too. I'll
leave someone who knows what's what to explain what the difference is,
but the distinction is made for a purpose.
From Ray
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Jackie Cairns
Subject: [access-uk] A Braille question about round and square brackets
Re-posting this as it bounced back with a permanent administration
failure message for some strange reason!
Hi George
Thanks for clarifying the distinction between round and square, which is
now clear. But without being pedantic, since this is very important in
the context of the exam and practice papers I'm doing, you use dot 6 and
lower G to open a square, and lower G followed by dot 3 to close, not
dot 6 as you said. At least this is the info the Primer gives. What
wasn't clear to me was the distinction between round and square
brackets. Personally, a bracket is a bracket to me, but not so in
modern Braille. (smile.)
Cheers mate.
Jackie
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----- Original Message -----
From: George Bell
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: A Braille question about round and square
brackets
Hi Jackie,
Left Square Bracket = Dot 6 lower g
Right Square Bracket = Lower G dot 6.
Normal (Round) brackets = lower g either side.
George.
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jackie Cairns
Sent: 18 April 2008 16:51
To: Access UK Mailing List
Subject: [access-uk] A Braille question about round and square brackets
Hi Listers
Could someone with a good working knowledge of modern Braille please
tell me what the difference is between round and square brackets? I
know it is the lower G, or dots 2 3 5 6. But, these days, there is the
infuriating necessity to have to use a dot 6 before the open bracket,
then the dot 3 at the end of the bracket. But do you use these
additional dot 6 and dot 3 distinctions for round or square brackets?
The Primer I have doesn't exactly make some things crystal clear.
I'm doing the BTEC Advanced certificate in grade 2 English Braille, and
just need to clarify this for myself as I'm a bit confused to be honest.
Thanks.
Jackie
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