Hi George, It works well with Talks though. Just thought I'd get that one in <Smile>. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: 14 December 2005 11:50 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: 6680 (WasRE: Re: Mobile Phone usablity focus groups) Then I'd equally seriously suggest you try before you buy, Mark. If I ever see one of those again, I won't be responsible for what I do with it. George. > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Matthews > Sent: 14 December 2005 11:31 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] 6680 (WasRE: Re: Mobile Phone usablity > focus groups) > > Funnily enough George I'm seriously considering upgrading to > one of these babies next April when I'm entitled. Like you I > just use the phone for staying in contact, however I've heard > glowing reports regarding stability. > As you can no doubt appreciate when running a Screen-reader, > this is critical. Therefore with this in mind, I'll probably > go ahead - unless of course further developments occur in the > meantime. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > Mark Matthews > Cardiff, Wales, UK > E-mail/MSN/Windows Messenger: mark.matthews53@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Skype: MMatthews1981 > Mobile: 07779 147874 > Home Page: http://www.qsl.net/gw0wgk/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell > Sent: 14 December 2005 10:44 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Phone usablity focus groups > > > I know what you mean here. My wife, wanting to give me an > early Christmas present, acquired a free upgrade for me to a > Nokia 6680 or something of that ilk. (I currently have a Nokia 6310i) > > Now I reckon I'm moderately technologically savvy, but after > an hour with this animal, I nearly threw it at the wall. It > has now gone back to the Vodaphone shop. I don't want two > cameras, I don't want an MP3 player, I don't want...... I > just want to make and receive telephone calls and messages. > > So I guess at 58 years of age, and 20-30 years in the computer field > one way or another, I am well past this new > generation of technology. > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a good quality string? The > mice have eaten the original, and made nests of > the two tin cans I was using. > > George. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tristram > Llewellyn > > Sent: 14 December 2005 09:22 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Phone usablity focus > groups > > > > Hi Steve > > > > I found myself at the top o the age barrier too and too > busy > > to stick my head round the door. I think the reasoning is > > > that although it is not true in all cases those 35 and > under > > are more likely to be enthused about access to mobile technology > > rather than by any kind of unwilling necessity. > > > > Regards. > > > > Tristram Llewellyn > > Sight and Sound Technology > > Technical Support > > www.sightandsound.co.uk > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:24 AM > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mobile Phone usablity focus > groups > > > > > > Hi Tristram, > > > > Shame about the age barrier, I am just intrigued to know > what > > these Toshiba > > phones are going to do in the way of accessibility. > Intriguing. > > > > If anyone goes, I would be interested in what they tell > us, being a > > long-time Talks user. > > > > All the best > > -- > > Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer > users. > > Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 > 759589 > > mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, > > Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn > > Sent: 13 December 2005 12:01 > > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [access-uk] Mobile Phone usablity focus groups > > > > Dear Listers > > > > I have no personal or professional association with the project > > detailed below except for a contact has asked me to if I would post > > > this to the list > > to give it circulation. I deem the Access UK list to be a > > > most apropriate > > forum for this. Details are below including contact information at > > the bottom. If you are interested in taking part please > contact > > the organisers. > > > > Text begins: > > > > Are you Interested in taking part in a focus group to look > at the > > accessibility problems of mobile phones for people with visual or > > dexterity impairments? > > > > Are you between 18 and 35? > > > > Are you free on January 9, 11 or 12, 2006? > > > > We are looking for both Braille or speech, and large print > users! > > > > The focus group sessions are being run by Toshiba mobile > phones, in > > conjunction with the Helen Hamlyn Research Centre for the > Assessment > > and Cognitive Ergonomics Lab, Virginia Polytechnic Institute > and State > > University USA. > > > > The sessions will take place at the Helen Hamlyn Research Centre, > > Royal College of Art, Kensington Gore, London SW7 2EU - tel: > > 02075904582, contact: > > Julia Cassim. > > > > The sessions are expected to last between 2 and 2.5 > hours, > > and refreshments > > will be provided. > > > > Participants will also receive a payment of £35 plus their > > > transportation > > costs (petrol costs are calculated at 35p per mile.). > > > > 1. Participants will first discuss issues regarding > problems of > > accessibility of mobile phones, (around 30 minutes). > > > > 2. Participants will then be asked to perform 4 tasks on a > phone model > > provided by Toshiba. Each task will be followed by > ratings > > (on several > > questionnaire items). > > > > 3. The session will close with a group discussion. > > > > We would like to videotape the focus groups, but will > protect > > confidentiality as per human subject ethical guidelines. > We > > need to capture > > hands and voices. > > > > Details on phone models, tasks, etc. cannot be provided > due > > to proprietary > > policies. > > > > To get involved, please contact Julia Cassim, a Research Fellow > > Programme Leader at the Royal College of Art's Helen Hamlyn Research > > > Centre before the > > 16th of December 2005, on 02075904582. You can also send a > fax to > > 02075904244. Julia's mobile number is 07890489829. Her > E-mail > > address is: > > julia.cassim@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > Text ends. > > > > Regards. > > > > Tristram Llewellyn > > Sight and Sound Technology > > Technical Support > > www.sightandsound.co.uk > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > link:- > > ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on > the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > link:- > > ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on > the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following > link:- > > ** > [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on > the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq