In a message dated 1/11/05 10:09:00 AM Central Standard Time, 0e60wq102@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: << Add my story to the litany of other paypal nightmares, this one from which I fortunately woke up in time to look back on it all as nothing more than a bad dream. >> Just to play the devil's advocate :) I have had about 200 eBay transactions, most of them using PayPal---some as a buyer, and some as a seller---and haven't had any problems at all. A lot of the negative PayPal issues that people hear about occurred before eBay bought them out. EBay seems to have cleaned up PayPal's act. BTW, you could experience the same sort of problem if you use eBay and don't use PayPal. Many of the scam messages I have gotten tried to make the sender appear to be eBay, and tried to get user-name/password combinations, and/or credit card numbers out of me. Ditching PayPal may not really help much, but having had this experience may help a lot. You will now be much more wary of anything of this sort! Gary For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.