Sorry Doug but if you got a device called a HUB then you got the wrong piece of equipment. I use cable so my only experience with DSL is supporting some of my clients with it. I'm a little surprised as it seems most DSL modem's are coming with built in routers but apparently your's does not, so it looks like you need to get a router. Netgear makes one as does Linksys among many brands to choose from. You could get a single port router and continue using the HUB or you could get a 4 port and eliminate the hub. If you keep the HUB, you would plug the DSL modem into the WAN port of the router then the hub into the other port on the router. Your pc's would continue to connect to the HUB. Spider http://web.tampabay.rr.com/spider1/spiderweb1.htm -----Original Message----- From: 24hoursupport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:24hoursupport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Keller Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:44 AM To: 24hoursupport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [24hoursupport] networking problems I recently talked my wife into dropping the dialup ISP and we went with verizon dsl. I bought a netgear DS104 hub. If I connect a short ethernet cable, the signal will go through the hub fine. On both computers. But I have a wire appro. 75-80 feet long running down into the basement, around the house, and back up to the second computer. I have a cable test set which shows the cable to be wired correctly. My wife is starting to get perturbed with me because she can't get on until I'm offline and can take her the modem. I CAN'T go back to dialup after having dsl. HELP!!!!!!!!!!! -- Doug Keller Wis-Kel Electronics 101 Freeland Ave. Terra Alta, WV USA 26764 dek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.tech-assist.org "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you won't live long enough to make them all yourself" For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.