"You do realize that winmodems come in external models, too, right?" No, not to my lnowledge in this part of the world. Tell me more please. "Only the cheaper brands fail to work with Linux. " My experience has been different, but the LINUX people are coming up with drivers for all sorts of modems and many savvy modem makers are peovidinf LINUX drivers. Richard Innes Auckland New Zealand unclerichard@xxxxxxxxxxxx - Users can unsubscribe from this list by sending email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at http://web.tampabay.rr.com/spider1/24hrsupport.htm.