You said in your previous message that the CD drives appear on boot. I missed that. It indicates that a cable is probably not the problem. What version of Windows? It might be a Windows driver that's hosed too. Or you can try booting to the Windows CD, since the drives are available to the hardware just not to Windows, and reinstalling/repairing Windows, which might fix the problem. I'm leaving town for the rest of the weekend shortly, so if someone else has any suggestions... Ron Saturday, October 30, 2004, 10:47:56 AM, you wrote: 0sc> I did reinstall Nero.The cd players were working before when it was easycd 0sc> creator, but nero wanted that removed to avoid conflict. Now there's no cd 0sc> player in My Computer, and no way to use a cd player to correct the problem. 0sc> I can make that hard drive slave to another if there's any way to use 0sc> anotherhard drive to help fix the problem? For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.