I did reinstall Nero.The cd players were working before when it was easycd creator, but nero wanted that removed to avoid conflict. Now there's no cd player in My Computer, and no way to use a cd player to correct the problem. I can make that hard drive slave to another if there's any way to use anotherhard drive to help fix the problem? --- "Ron Allen chizotz-at-mchsi.com |24hoursupport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx|" &l= t;...> wrote: From: "Ron Allen chizotz-at-mchsi.com |24hoursuppor= t@xxxxxxxxxxxxx|" <...> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:43:32 -0500 T= o: ........................ Subject: [24hoursupport] Re: missing cd play= ers First, three definitions and some background: ASPI (pronoun= ced with a long A followed by "sappy") is an acronym for "Advanced SCSI = Programming Interface". SCSI (pronounced "scuzzy") is an acronym for "Sm= all Computer System Interface". IDE, in context with SCSI, stands for "I= ntegrated Drive Electronics"; it can also stand for "Integrated Developm= ent Environment", which describes a software authoring system where thelanguage and compiler are tied together, along with a code editor andother tools, in asingle integrated program. Perhaps you already know s= ome or all of this, but I'm sure many on this list do not... and for som= e reason I'm in my educator mode this morning :) Now, ASPI is a "sof= tware layer" -- basically a program similar in many ways to a driver -- = that sits between certain programs and certain hardware and lets those p= rograms and hardware "talk" to each other. SCSI does indeed primaril= y refer to a type of hardware, especially mass storage devices, that is = relatively uncommon (mainly because of the higher cost as compared to ID= E devices, which is what most of us probably have). But the SCSI standar= d refers not just to hardware but also the software interface. To make a= long story short, you can have a SCSI software layer to communicate wit= h IDE devices. This especially applies to CD-ROM drives, I believe becau= se the first CD-ROM drives were SCSI devices (I may be wrong, or at leas= t making the explanation too simple, on that point). Anyway... Yo= u mention Nero. Nero is one software package that uses a SCSI layer to c= ommunicate with IDE devices. So even though you may not have SCSI hardwa= re in your system, if you have Nero installed then you do have ASAPI ins= talled and will see references to a SCIS adapter which is Nero's way of = connecting to your IDE CD burner. I would try reinstalling Nero befo= re pulling the machine apart and replacing cables, which is inconvenient= at best and can be somewhat expensive if you need to buy new cables. Th= at might solve your problem. If you have installed Nero's InCD software,= and your ASPI installations is hosed, that could account for the error = conditions on the drives. On the other hand, I'd say that you're correct= that a damaged IDE cable could also be the culprit and if a reinstall o= f Nero doesn't work then that's the next thing to try. Hope that = helps. Ron 0sc> in my other pc, both of my cd= players suddenly appear on 0sc> boot, but not in My Computer in Desk= top. When I try to click on 0sc> Nero, the message says: "The Win-ASP= I file '?.?' can't be found. 0sc> Check for correct Windows ASPI Mana= ger installation of your 0sc> SCSI-Host Adapter Software. Error 16: N= o adapters." 0sc> This pc has no SCSI stuff in in that I know of.= I don't now 0sc> what the ASPI file is all about. 0sc> The= cd players were visible in My Computer before, but then 0sc> I ran a= HD backup in which I had to push the HD out and in 0sc> several time= s past several cables. Could it be a loose or damaged 0sc> cable like= an IDE cable? The fittings all seem tight. For a web-based memb= ership management utility and information on list policies, please see http= ://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24= hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in th= e subject. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://Flower.LocalStreets.c= om - A Network Of Top Florists For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.