[24hoursupport] Re: bouncing emails
- From: yyixi001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: 24hoursupport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 06:30:55 -0500
Hi all,
When you mentioned 'spam problem', I realized I may have something to
contribute, although I'm not so sure. Here is a copy of a recent, unique
message I got out of the blue;
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Subject: Verification required for colinthompson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
protected by 0Spam.com.
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:45:02 -0400
From: "verify-at-0spam.com |24hoursupport/1.0-Allow|"
<v5tbhlqeqa0t@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: (my personal email address)
ATTENTION!
A message you recently sent to a 0Spam.com user with the subject
"[24hoursupport] Re: Free Anti-Virus" was not delivered because they are
using the 0Spam.com anti-spam service. Please click the link below to
confirm that this is not spam.
http://www.0spam.com/verify.php?user=colinthompson&verify=19253
========================================
This is an automated message from 0Spam.com.
Please do not reply to this Email.
Looking for a free anti-spam service?
Visit us at http://www.0Spam.com for find out more.
end cut & paste
I did NOT reply to it. I don't even remember sending the original mssg
that generated this reply. I was going to delete it. Don't know if this
helps.
Roland
"Spider spider1-at-tampabay.rr.com |24hoursupport/1.0-Allow|" wrote:
>
>
> Here's my take on what is going on. Since no one has access to really good
> information about the inner workings of Yahoo Groups and how the many
> different ISP's handle their mail we can only guess.
>
> My opinion is that this random inexplainable failure to deliver messages is
> directly related to the SPAM problem. Anyone running a mail service (ISP's)
> these days are forced to use some type of software SPAM control or run the
> risk of having their servers brought down by the volume of SPAM.
>
> These SPAM filters are varied and configurable many different ways. Most of
> them include a monitor of the sending domain and have triggers built in to
> auto-block a domain when large numbers of messages start coming in from that
> domain. This threshold will vary from ISP to ISP. Once the trigger fires,
> it can re-act many different ways.
>
> Considering that Yahoo Groups is large, and during a busy period might send
> out lots of email, I think they are triggering a SPAM response with some of
> the ISP's. The ISP may respond to the perceived SPAM attack by automaticly
> bouncing the message with an "unknown recipient" message. The intent is
> that the spammer will then drop that email address from their list and
> reduce the spam. Some ISP's then trigger a block of that domain. This can
> remain blocked until someone at the ISP manually releases the block, or they
> might configure to block for a period of time.
>
> This is only one of many scenarios that could cause this type of issue.
> There is not an easy solution to this problem.
>
> Spider
> Http://web.tampabay.rr.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 24hoursupport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:24hoursupport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Merin
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 1:05 AM
> To: 24hoursupport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [24hoursupport] Re: bouncing emails
>
> Here's the thing, though...Yahoo has reported me as bouncing "unknown
> recipient" on several of my email accounts, all of which are completely
> valid and do not bounce from any other source. I really do think it's Yahoo
> being screwy rather than dozens of other mail servers.
>
> Merin
> http://www.goodcleansoap.com
> Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live
> as one wishes to live. --Oscar Wilde
>
> > Disagree with me if you wish. I was merely pointing out why it happens.
> > People's mailservers give incorrect responses and Yahoo! stops sending
> > mail. If I was sending several million someones a letter, and it was
> > returned as "unknown recipient," I wouldn't think "hmm, it just worked
> > yesterday," I would just stop sending them mail until they confirmed
> > that they mailing address was correct. It wouldn't be worth my effort
> > to do anything other than that.
>
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