Oe60wq102: I, too, have been watching this development and have decided to abandon Zone Alarm, an old friend on my computers for a number years. I don't know Kirio products, but Google should enlighten me. I'm wondering why Steve Gibson decided to sell the program (ZA) that made him famous. My friends who have gone to DSL generally get firewall protection from their ISPs. Unfortunately, DSL is not yet available from Earthlink in my neighborhood in suburban Portland, OR. I'll subscribe when it is. Maybe its time to look at hardware firewalls (routers), too. But then my wife will remind me once more that the difference between men and boys is the cost and complexity of their toys. And I'll tell her I could take up smoking, drinking and wild, wild women instead. Paul King At 06:07 PM 10/28/04, you wrote: >Zone Alarm. There was a report a day or two ago that Zone Alarm was >purchasedby a company located in Israel, and that ZA is suspected of doing >double-duty as spyware for Israeli concerns now. It also said the quality of >ZA's performance has dropped since the buyout/takeover, and that a good >alternative was Kirio Personal Firewall 4. In the same report, someone >suggested just using an older version of ZA, but I decided to be done with >itand unloaded ZA immediately. For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.