Ron, I think you'll find that this is an epidemic that is 'going around', and is impossible to stop. These are just cretins, as you said, with nothing more constructive to do than learn new ways to be annoying. Their only reward is the knowledge that people are bothered. They find ways to accomplish it, even though we do all in our power to thwart them. It would take super software experts (like Microsoft) to find ways to detect, identify, and even punish them, but even the newsgroups where advice close to Microsoft emanates, don't seem to take an active interest. I've given up. I have filters that detect 90% of their garbage and delete it automatically. And, thank heaven, I have anti-virus software and two-layer ISP protection as well. I'm resigned to just live with it until it goes away. Bill Lurie For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.