Remember, edit replies. Hi Ron, I looked into taking a web design course at one point, till I found out how much of it I would have to pay<g> The fellow who gave the presentation told us we would have to create a commercial web site as part of our instruction. It would be our term paper as it were. He suggested that we find a local company our business with a 'Bad' web page, and when we finished the course/page we could offer our services to the business. It sounded like a good idea. Mike ~ www.mwn.ca Remembering 911 and all who were lost or lost family/friends Respecting the heros of Flight 93 'Let's Roll' *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/09/2002 at 8:53 PM Ron Allen wrote: Remember, edit replies. I'm curious. Are you going to work with the site owner or just do this as an excercise? It would be a shame to do all that work and let it go to waste. On the other hand, I would like to meet the diplomat who talks the owner into a re-design. The idea is to just do it as an exercise, but I had the same thoughts you did. I hate to see the work we'll be doing, well, not go to waste, exactly, but be just an intellectual exercise. On the other hand, I'm not sure how the matter could be approached with the site owner without causing offense, at the very least. I may bring the issue up to the group or perhaps the entire class. Part of the class is the ethics of web design and use, and I've had some mild misgivings about this use of a third-party web site from the beginning. The work was assigned by the teacher, and so I must presume that it is both legal and ethical to "borrow" a web site in this way for class work. Still, in a way this doesn't quite "feel right" to me. Ron - Users can unsubscribe from this list by sending email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at http://web.tampabay.rr.com/spider1/24hrsupport.htm.