Rereading my post I see I really didn't clearly answer your question about what I mean by a "real ISP". My definition is a provider that invisibly connects you to the internet. You never see any ads, you never have to go to a home page to connect, you can use any browser you want without first connecting using theirs. You can use any mail program. You can use any OS you want. I admit I have never used AOL but I have read many accounts from people who normally use a "real ISP" but experience AOL at a friend's house. They invariably mention how long it takes to connect and all the ads you go through and stuff. With a "real ISP" it's like using a phone to make a call. You are never even are aware of the phone company. Same with a "real ISP": You just just connect to the site you want with out ever being really aware of the ISP. In fact with AOL when you enter a URL often instead of connecting you to the site AOL will give you a copy cached on one of their servers. Many people may not realize this and if it is a site with frequent changes they could be looking at outdated info. With a "real ISP" you aways connect directly to the site. Ray wrote: [snip] > As to ISPs I perhaps had a bit of oldtimers kneejerk > reaction to AOL but frankly it is over priced compared to > other nationals and there is really no reason to put any > extra software on your computer to use an ISP. In all > fairness while the AOL software in the past has been > notorious for causing problems and almost impossible to > remove newer versions are better. > > (Despite what AOL might say getting on the Internet even > if you manually setup your dial up. I had never used a > computer in my life the first time I used the Wizard in > Windows to set up a connection and had no real problem.) >[snip]> > > > > > MuresArad@xxxxxxx wrote: > [snip] >>I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say about real ISP providers. >>My wife and I are Romanians and we use the internet to communicate with >>family >>and friends in Romania, since it's cheaper and faster than a telephone. >>[snip] For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.