Hi Joe, I've used other email apps, but prefer Outlook (not Outlook Express) because of it's ease of use and the ability to support multiple mail accounts easily. So far, in the 5 years I've been online (4 1/2 of those years using Outlook), I've never been infected by a single virus/worm. When I got online I was as green as they come, I knew nothing of viruses, I even figured ".com" must have stood for "end-communication". I soon learned what viruses were, got myself protected with a good antivirus program, and began practicing safe-computing habits such as not opening attachments and downloading patches when I learn of them, and most importantly keeping my AV program updated. It isn't so much the email app that you use that cause infections. It is more the habits of the user that allow infections. I think it is more commonly those who are uninformed, or careless, who are more likely to be infected than those who use certain email programs. Take care, Pam > > > > Frethem is one of the newer crop that creates it's own SMTP server to > propagate. From Sophos (I'll leave it to you to search for info on the > others but you'll find that they too try to exploit Outlook.): > > >W32/Frethem is contained in the attached EXE file, which attempts to > >exploit an Outlook bug in order to run automatically when the > mail is read. > > Nothing can protect people that are willing to run unknown attachments. > Which is why I never claimed not running Outlook would offer complete > protection. > > Much more interesting here is the obvious question: Of the 200 lonely > Outlook users there, how many of those that received the email > got infected > with and without actually running the attachment (95%?)? How many Eudora > users got infected without running it (0%?)? And someone has > really got to > commend the IT department there for almost completely stamping > out Outlook! > > > At 08:29 PM 7/17/2002, you wrote: > > >I support 9000 pc's and Mac's at my job. About 3000 of them got infected > >with the Frethem virus on Monday, we are still disinfecting > their systems. > >Of the 9000 about 200 have Outlook or Outlook Express installed. Klez, > >Melissa, Badtrans, Nimda, Navidad you name it they got it and spread it, > >without Outlook. The information you gave is misleading if not > wrong. Eudora > >and Netscape is used on these systems. > > - Users can unsubscribe from this list by sending email to > 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the > Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at > http://web.tampabay.rr.com/spider1/24hrsupport.htm. > > - Users can unsubscribe from this list by sending email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at http://web.tampabay.rr.com/spider1/24hrsupport.htm.