[nas-2000] RE : Re: RE : Re: Dual HDD NAS (SATA) Firmware
- From: Samuel BURG <samuel_burg@xxxxxxxx>
- To: nas-2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:42:21 +0100 (CET)
Hello George,
> Hello Samual,
>
> I can't thank you enough; just a few more questions,
> I hope you don't mind!
>
> > unsing [MRT kernel + any (ramdisk + boot +
> hddapp)] on> DUAL HDD NAS - Sata : for only the 2
> disk are detectedAt the moment I only have one hard
> disk drive, but I am planning on adding another in
> the near future; does this mean I should wait until
> I have added the second disk, as the new firmware
> may not detect one disk on its own?
the disk detection is made at each boot.
so it doesn't matter you add the second disk
before/after firmware update.
for me I would do :
1) flash back to 'old' MRT firmware (version 2.3.2a or
2.3.2b), so I can log via telnet
2) add the second disk in the nas
3) copy data from hdd 1 to hdd 2
4) remove hdd 2 (no more danger for my data)
5) have a lot of fun with a lot of flashing, testing,
crashing on hdd 1 until I have the 'perfect'
customized firmware
6) re-add hdd 2, log via telnet or ssh, copy back data
to hdd 1 (if I have lose something in step (5))
7) erase hdd 2 to have fresh space
> > > 2) Are you now able to install other ipkg
> packages> > on the SATA NAS, e.g. TwonkyMedia?> > I
> have not tested this. I _think_ it should work.I
> appreciate your honesty; if you don't mind I may
> start another thread on this subject specifically,
> please feel free to comment.
>
> Finally, would you repeat this process each time MRT
> or Tinky release an upgrade to their firmware?
when you will have flash your NAS using redboot you
will see that it is not so difficult, and you will be
able to test any new firmware (kernel, ramdisk,
hddapp) without losing your data.
well, maybe there is a step more for using a new
_hddapp_ version without formating all the disk :
manualy install the uncompress hddapp file on the
fisrt partition of the first disk.
In fact, when you initialize your hard disk the first
time with the nas software it create on disk 1 [
partition 1, 100Mo, hdd application; partition 2, most
of the size, data; partition 3, 512Mo, swap=virtual
memory] and on disk 2 [ partition 1, all size, data ].
So if you re-initilize the disk with the web/http
interface each time you upgrade the firmware you lose
your data, then it's realy better to log in the nas
and manualy install the hdd app on the first
partition, but this is an other story ... under
ARM-Linux.
Best regards,
Samuel Burg
> Thanks again
>
> George
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:31:01 +0100> From:
> samuel_burg@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [nas-2000] RE : Re:
> Dual HDD NAS (SATA) Firmware> To:
> nas-2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > 1) Can I assume that
> using this method you have not> > lost the use of
> one hard disk drive; I know this> > sounds obvious,
> but I don't wish to take any thing> > for granted!>
> > unsing [Tinky kernel + any (ramdisk + boot +
> hddapp)]> on DUAL HDD NAS - Sata : for only the
> first disk is> detected > > unsing [MRT kernel + any
> (ramdisk + boot + hddapp)] on> DUAL HDD NAS - Sata :
> for only the 2 disk are detected> > > So, if you
> have 2 disk, you should better use the MRT> kernel.
> Read forward to know how to use MRT kernel> with
> Tinky soft.> > Don't worry, be happy, as you can
> allway flash back> any MRT firmware if you don't
> flash the [redboot] of> your NAS.> > > 2) Are you
> now able to install other ipkg packages> > on the
> SATA NAS, e.g. TwonkyMedia?> > I have not tested
> this. I _think_ it should work. > > > 3) As I
> mentioned, I am now using the most recent> > MRT
> firmware without telnet access; from here how> >
> would I go about upgrading my firmware as you> >
> suggest?> > This is not an issue, as you must upgade
> using the> redboot. There is a doc about this on
> the> Flip/Nas-2000 blog/forum. Dual Hdd Nas IDE/SATA
> and> NAS-1000/2000 have the same redboot system.> >
> To access the redboot, you need to do something like
> :> > reboot your nas> ...> telnet 192.168.2.71 9000>
> ...> ctrl+C> ...> > look in the attached file
> [DUAL-NAS-rescue.txt]> it's a personnal doc for
> linux fedora core. It explain> how to upgrade only a
> part of the flash (exaclty what> you _WANT_ to do).
> You should be able to do this from> a windows box.>
> > You _MUST_ know :> - don't flash the boot process
> : useless and dangerous> - download Tinky [hddapp]
> and [ramdisk] (not the>
> [tinky-2_3_2-mu****.tar.gz])> - install a [tftp]
> server in your computer (this is> the better/easyest
> way to upload file from computer to> NAS)> > Work
> hard, and remember :> > "The only way to get smarter
> is by playing a smarter> opponent"> Fundamentals of
> Chess - 1883> > Good luck,> > Samuel Burg> > > ---
> gtx coms <gtxcom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :> > > Hi
> Samual,> > > > Thanks for your reply, which is very
> interesting; I> > was under the impression that
> Tinky was no longer an> > option!> > > > Just a few
> questions please -> > > > 1) Can I assume that using
> this method you have not> > lost the use of one hard
> disk drive; I know this> > sounds obvious, but I
> don't wish to take any thing> > for granted!> > > >
> 2) Are you now able to install other ipkg packages>
> > on the SATA NAS, e.g. TwonkyMedia?> > > > 3) As I
> mentioned, I am now using the most recent> > MRT
> firmware without telnet access; from here how> >
> would I go about upgrading my firmware as you> >
> suggest?> > > > Once again, please note I am a
> beginner, so any> > basic instructions would be much
> appreciated.> > > > Thanks again> > > > George> > >
> > > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 12:45:03 +0100> > > From:
> samuel_burg@xxxxxxxx> > > Subject: [nas-2000] Re:
> Dual HDD NAS (SATA)> > Firmware> > > To:
> nas-2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > hi,> > > > > >
> well, I have 3 DUAL HDD NAS : 2x IDE (80+80 Gb &> >
> > 200+200 Gb) & 1x SATA (300+300 Gb).> > > > > > IDE
> NAS with MRT firmware, + some customisation> > >
> (+telnet, +root password, -printer)> > > > > > SATA
> NAS with ... Tinky !> > > > > > First of all : do
> not flash your Dual Hdd Nas with> > > Tinky "all in
> one" firmware ! Better to download> > the> > >
> firmware in separated part (boot - kernel -> >
> ramdisk -> > > hddapp) and then flash only
> kernel+ramdisk+hddapp> > (you> > > don't need to
> upgrade the boot, and it's very> > > dangerous).> >
> > > > > In fact I only use ramdisk + hddapp from
> Tinky,> > and> > > boot + kernel from MRT.> > > > >
> > Why ?> > > > > > Because SATA in dual hdd nas ...
> in not SATA ...> > it> > > seems that there is an
> internal sata/ide converter> > (2> > > ide controler
> for 2 sata disk), so the "ide-only"> > > Tinky
> kernel work !> > > BUT ... the Tinky kernel only use
> the ide primary> > > controler ... so the second
> SATA disk cannot be> > used> > > with this kernel
> ... so I use the MRT kernel with> > the> > > Tinky
> ramdisk + hddapp.> > > > > > Good luck !> > > > > >
> Samuel Burg> > > > > > > > > PS : I've also try to
> customize the rd's scripts> > in> > > tinky firmware
> but ... I've totaly failed ! Duh !> > ...> > > flash
> back ...> > > > > > PS-2 : Does someone have a QEMU
> (or any other> > > virtualizing software) arm-32
> virtual system> > > simulating a NAS-2000 or
> Dual-Hdd-NAS, to build,> > test> > > and _crash_
> soft without danger ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
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