[ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] Re: [ztebladeopensource] 答复: [ztebladeopensource] Re: Turies
- From: Sebastian Robinson <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "ztebladeopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ztebladeopensource@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 20:17:50 +0100
Yes sorry I meant Ben...
I blame the jet lag :)
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 29, 2011, at 20:13, rjm2k1 <rjm2k1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi seb I think your message was directed at zte. Personally I will be
> sticking with my blade for the next six months or so after which I will see
> what's out there. Unless zte change their attitude it won't be one of their
> devices for me next, its one thing providing little or no support but
> deliberately preventing those who are willing to do it for free and totally
> ignoring licence obligations of software provided to them for free is
> unacceptable in my book.
> maybe the fsf or google will educate them and improve the situation but that
> remains to be seen. At least mainstream manufacturers are now seeing the
> light and opening up their devices. Maybe zte will see the skate flop and see
> the error of their ways.
> Rob
>
> On 29 Oct 2011 19:58, "Sebastian Robinson" <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> Do you have any update for us? its been a week now...
>
>
> I'm back in the US for Halloween and I've noticed that Boost Mobile are
> selling a ZTE Warp and AT&T are selling another device called the Avail that
> is apparently another ZTE device...
>
> neither of those two appear on your support site, so that is now at least
> three devices on sale with out the kernel sources being available...
>
> I'm sure your aware that the success of the Blade was helped someway by the
> open source development community, and I'd hoped that you'd be able to lever
> that go onto bigger and better things, but at the moment its not panning out
> that way. If I was confident that the bootloader was functional and there
> was kernel source for these devices I'd of bought both of these devices but
> after the issues with the Turies I thought twice....
>
> Sebastian
>
> 2011/10/24 <ying.ben@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> i'm here, i'm always here.
>
> Pls don't worry, and pls don't hurry.
>
> There are a lot of departments in the big ZTE company, so there are a lot of
> walls between the departments.
>
> So we need some times to handle an issue but we will do it.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ben | 应贲 System engineer
> Project Management Dept. IV | ZTE Handset Division
> Seat A2016, Room A205, No.889 Bibo Road, Pudong District, Shanghai.
> Tel:+86-21-6889-5200 | Mail:ying.ben@xxxxxxxxxx
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> So when HTC, Samsung and SonyEricsson has started to open up their
> bootloaders (SonyEricsson and Samsung even gave away free phones to
> CyanogenMod developers), ZTE starts to make their platform more closed. That
> is a bad move in my opinion.
>
> Do they not realize that open and customizable phones and tablets is what
> people wants and expects now?
>
> I Sweden users of the ZTE V9/Light even bought me a tablet because they
> wanted custom ROMs for it. They suggested it, not me. Now they can all enjoy
> a very stable Android 2.3.7 (in the form of CyanogenMod) on their tablets
> thanks to the community. We can even do multitouch gestures as zooming and
> rotating even though it's a single touch resistive screen. And all the work
> the community put into it can be found on github so what we fix and enhance
> can be useful for ZTE.
>
> If this is where ZTE is heading, then my next device will be from a different
> manufacturer.
>
> /kallt_kaffe
>
> PS. I also would like to know where I can find the kernel source for the ZTE
> V9C (Reliance 3G tab).
>
> Sebastian Robinson skrev 2011-10-23 18:29:
> Thats very true, it makes the Turies a bit of a non-starter for us tho,
> theres no released exploit for 2.3.5 as of yet, so no way to root it, and
> there is no kernel source, or anyway to re-write the boot partition if we
> did..
>
> lets hope that the fastboot problems are an error and will be fixed with an
> update....
>
>
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> On 23 Oct 2011, at 09:18, József Király wrote:
>
> It might be a modified fastboot, what only accepts uploads via a serial
> console - JTAG, by example. It wouldn't be a surprise, as ZTE has been
> deliberately trying to disable user-flashing, and removing fastboot is a bit
> against the Android principles (to always have a method what can recover a
> dead device). While this principle is not official, as I heard, Google
> requires it most of the time (to make the work of warranty services easier,
> and unified, except Samsung ofc...), and disabling it wasn't the best step,
> so locking it down (á lá HTC) might be a better solution.
>
> 2011/10/23 Tom Giordano <tomgiordano83@xxxxxxxxx>
> Fastboot without USB is a bit pointless, I don't know why they would both
> including it in the bootloader, but if you can't see anything in lsusb it is
> certainly broken.
>
>
> On 23 October 2011 11:04, Sebastian Robinson <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> I'll grab a config tomorrow, if I try and build it against the SKATE kernel
> source there is seems more than happy until it gets to the board file, so I
> cant imagine its going to be too different...
>
> but then it is the usual story with ZTE now, we could 'fix' it but I'd rather
> have the official source from them since its part of the licence terms....
>
>
> Im fairly sure that fastboot has no USB, I've not had this problem with any
> of the other devices I've tried it with, from my linux box doing an lsusb
> just shows no USB devices, I've tried it on a windows PC and OSX just to be
> sure.
>
> I also tried using USBTrace on my windows box and its not seeing any sort of
> activity on the USB port when its in fastboot mode, I can get the thing into
> FTM and it's connectable via QPST so im fairly sure there is something up
> with fastboot mode.....
>
> unless you have any other ideas I could try
>
>
>
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> On 23 Oct 2011, at 00:50, Tom Giordano wrote:
>
> The board files should be fairly easy to add (assuming the 2.6.32 source is
> correct). Can you pull a config from your device so I can test it compiles
> before I upload source (I can't find a Turies rom).
>
> USB should work in fastboot, maybe you have a permissions problem (if using
> linux run it as root). USB is deliberately disabled in recovery by ZTE's
> FTM_MODE config switch.
>
> On 23 October 2011 04:24, Sebastian Robinson <sebastian.robinson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm not sure if anyone is still subscribed here, or if ZTE follow this, but I
> just wanted to flag up that the ZTE Turies is now available to buy in the UK,
> but there is no sign of the source code on ZTE's support site.... It comes
> with a 2.6.35 kernel, so I checked the Skate and Roamer source but was unable
> to build a kernel using that since the board files are missing.
>
> I also noticed that when I reboot the device into recovery or fastboot mode
> there is no USB, is this on purpose?
>
> Cheers,
> Sebastian
>
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